Does anyone with version 3 hardware have it yet?

 

As of 8 am EST on 12/3, no one on Teslafi has FSD 13, neither HW3 nor HW4. I am not seeing any HW3 on Teslafi beyond FSD 12.5.4.2 and that is consistent with what my HW3 cars have.

 

I am currently installing 13.40 on my 2023 Model S.

 

I assume you mean software build 2024.33.40? If so, you want this thread. That build comes with FSD 12.5.6.4

 

2024.39.15 with FSD v13.2.1 is here.

 

Last night I got the update 2024.45.25.5 which contains the Christmas update and the FSD 13.2.2.

Today I had the occasion to test the new FSD and I am impressed. With the new profiles available on city driving it is perfect !

I wanted to see what’s the difference between Standard and Hurry and my Tesla is more "engaged" in the later profile. It gets faster to the set speed and it is great to use on highway.
Things I was pleasantly surprised to see :

• signalling the exit on a roundabout
• moving from the passing lane to the other lane although there was no car behind
• choosing the right lane in a crowded intersection

I am impressed indeed ! Can’t wait to see how everything evolves in the next year.
I am more and more convinced that only Tesla will be the car that I will buy in the future, especially being that I am getting older and FSD is great to have, allowing freedom of mouvement to old farts like me.

 

LOL

 

I just got FSD 13.2.1 for my 2023 Model X. To my dismay, it is still making the same inexplicable mistake that earlier versions based on the neural network software have been making – premature turns into a left or right turn lane instead of following the nav plan straight ahead. I don’t understand why this advanced software, which does very well otherwise, can’t just follow the nav plan – that seems so basic. I’m losing faith in FSD. Talk of driving hundreds of miles without an intervention seems absurd. I’d trade all the new features like unpark and self park for an autopilot that unfailingly follows the nav plan.

 

I’d trade all the new features like unpark and self park for an autopilot that unfailingly follows the nav plan.

I’d trade for getting my FSD costs back ($3000).

 

I have FSD V13.2.2 on my HW4 2023Model S. It is unbelievably good. Not just no need to intervene, not just adequately maneuvering, but it is jaw-dropping smooth and amazing in just about everything it is doing. I’ve driven about 100 miles with it on a wide variety of different roads.

There have been You Tube videos and people proclaiming for years that THIS version of FSD (whichever one they had at the time) is so good. Yet most of us out there using FSD have known otherwise, that there have been lots of ways FSD is lacking. With V13.2.2, I feel like I have seen and experienced the future. THIS one is different and truly amazing. I felt like I was in the car with a very skilled professional driver.

 

Hold that thought... in my experience (2023 M3 LFP), the v12 releases were pretty good on first few days but got worse day by day... After a week of free trial, I would only use it for specific segments that are easy.

 

Have you seen any problem with voice navigation commands. For example, "show <McDonalds>"?

On "Software v12(24024.44.25.2) Full Self-Driving (v12.5.4.2)", the "show" command seems to bring up a search for podcasts and media sources, not the map with a list. Only "navigate <show>" brings up the list if asked quickly.

Furthermore, I noticed the "+" display of L2 chargers no longer shows 3d party, charging options. My workaround is "navigate <network>" but this is less efficient.

Bob Wilson

 

I noticed 3rd party DC chargers disappeared a while after purchase. It used to be there would be 3 lightnings. 1= L2/Tesla Dest Charger, 2 =other DCFC, 3 = Tesla SuC. I guess 1 = Tesla Des Charger only now...

 

Yesterday I installed V13.2.2 in my 2023 Model S, HW4. First drive today was 100 miles split equally between surface streets and limited access highways. In my humble opinion, FSD is now...incredible. I have my settings at "hurry" and 15% above posted limits. With only 2 exceptions in 100 miles the car drove so much like I do that my wife kept asking "are you sure you're not helping?". The 2 exceptions were when it turned into the wrong driveway at my local library and when it missed one speed limit sign causing me to have to increase my speed with the scroll wheel. Where previously I would have to nudge the car into action from time to time with the accelerator, this action was no longer necessary. Acceleration and deceleration were appropriate in virtually every circumstance.
I first purchased FSD as an add-on to EAP on my first Tesla (a 2018 M3P). And I have been very critical of Tesla's (Elon's) inaccurate estimates of progress. I know that some still have legitimate gripes, especially those with FSD on HW3. Luckily, I'm no longer in that group since Tesla allowed me to Transfer my FSD (supercharging). For me, this iteration of FSD is good enough to meet my needs until I need Level 5 when my kids take my keys away (I wonder how that will happen when I have no "key" ?). And I now have every confidence that in the 15-20 years until that necessity Tesla will have achieved L5.
Supervision is still required and should be. I doubt I will ever, personally, want to drive without some level of supervision. For example, I can't foresee a day when I'll let the car drive through a school zone without my rapt attention. Hands-on-wheel prompts are now gone for me, and vision detection is virtually flawless. I even tried out auto wipers today for the first time in months and it was perfect.

I know this sounds like I'm a fanboy, and maybe I am. But up until now, this FSD fanboy has been a critic.

Well done Tesla!!

 

This is my first post to a forum so bear with me if necessary please. Some issues I have with FSD 13.2.2 in my 2024 M3:

-the car needs to track slightly off centre to the left in the outside lane, to avoid debris near the curb,
-the car still doesn’t read “end of school zone” sign and so doesn’t speed back up,
-the car is slow to respond to reduced speed limit and lane closure signs in construction zones on the highway,
-the car is slow to reduce speed when the posted limit is reduced on the highway,
-the car doesn’t always respect the max speed offset, especially when the offset is less than 40% which in western Canada can result in a speed that is way to quick. So, for clarity, I’ve had issues where the offset I’ve set on the autopilot page doesn’t match the calculated max from the scroll wheel, before I roll it up or down

I’d be interested to read comments that others may have about these issues.

Generally though V13 is very impressive; we’re gettin’ there folks

I agree that V13 is very impressive, but it does take some liberties with the max speed. I was on a highway with a speed limit of 65 mph, max speed of 68 mph based on my offset setting of +5%. The highway speed limit reduced to 55 mph, but the car kept the 68 mph max speed (and actual speed). In that particular case, I was fine with it because it is a location that the change in speed limit is observed by NO ONE. I actually had started to intervene to expect to need to increase it, but in that case I was happy that it stayed at what I was going to reset it to.

 

Same experience. In my case from 70 to 60 in an interstate and again from 45 to 50 on a four-lane highway (in this case allowing 75 as the max!). Always the same places. And it does display the correct speed limit. Weird. Both very bad (at least a ticket and also dangerous). If I disengage FSD and then reengage it, it seems to respond correctly. The other gripe I still have is that it really likes to move to an inner lane, when a turn is coming up in less than a half mile; nasty when there is traffic. I use "standard"; others recommend "hurry".

 

And I tested FSD 13.2.2 in highway and city driving and I am impressed. In some aspects, it does better than me. I am always hurry and speedy, FSD taught me to relax and chill.
I purposely let two incidents in the video to showcase the fact that it is not perfect, but from my perspective, I saw worse from real drivers.
I am very eager to see what's next. In 6 months since I am using FSD, I see a constant improvement (11.4.9 to 13.2.2), the one from 11.x.x to 13.x.x is huuuuuge !

I added timestamps on the video to showcase the things I thought important about FSD 13.2.2.

 

Does the new back-up alert only insert a red border on the screen or can you enable a warning sound? I can't find anywhere to do that so I assume no.

 

I've had FSD since my first M3 2018. 13.2.2 is amazing! Previously I rarely used it unless I was traveling some distance. Now, I use it nearly every time I'm driving. Recently, it menovered around a small raccoon or armadillo after dark without missing a beat. However, traveling about 55 mph the other day on a highway, also after dark, it did not "see" an immovable lump in the roadway, likely previous roadkill, and ran right over it. (I had no time to react either). Makes me wonder if the movement of the animal the first time is what triggered the evasive maneuver. Like other posters, quite often it takes some liberties on highways exceeding speed limits, changing my max speed setting for no apparent reason. Overall, very pleased.

 

I had FSD (12.5.4.X or something like that) on my 2018 HW3 Model X and it was very much like driving with a inexperienced teenager with serious vision problems and/or a constantly nagging copilot.

I sold the MX and picked up a new Model Y AWD with a free 30 day FSD subscription. I drove 110 miles to get the car and the return trip was all FSD ver 13.2.2. It is an understatement to say I was impressed. It drove the entire trip with zero interventions. I set it to "hurry" mode and it literally did everything perfectly. I drove through a large city (San Francisco) and over bridges and a highway with construction projects, closed lane merges and heavy to light traffic. It handled every situation as a cool, calm good driver would. It even reacted to an emergency vehicle passing in the opposing by carefully pulling over (all the cars in front of me didn't) and then quickly resumed with a brisk but safe move back into the clueless traffic around it.

Yesterday, it took me 12 miles from my garage to Costco and parked itself. The return trip was perfect too but exposed the only issue of not being able to pull up my short private drive and back into the garage.

I have been critical of FSD as not being safe but what I'm experiencing with ver 13.2.2 in nothing short of amazing. It is really fun to observe your vehicle drive competently and safely with my eyes mostly on the road and my hands off the wheel. If this is a dream please don't wake me up ... it is that bloody good!

 

A year ago, on road trips my wife only allowed FSD on the interstate (and often not even then). Now, she uses it herself for trips around town.

There are plenty of 9s to go, but oh my.

 

13.2.1 was a little better for me. 13.2.2 wanders back and forth in the lane. I've also experienced it changing lanes without signaling.

 

13.2.1 was a little better for me. 13.2.2 wanders back and forth in the lane. I've also experienced it changing lanes without signaling.

That hasn't been my experience. It could be location related (I'm in Northern California) but lane drifting and no signal lane changes simply don't happen. In fact, I think the signal lane changes are too much as it signals even when there is no traffic around. I (like most men) consider myself a good (actually great) driver but I have to admit FSD in my new Model Y is a safer if not better driver. I like to tell people "since I don't have eyes on the sides and back of my head, it damn well should be a better driver" ...

 

Downloaded the latest change (FSD 13.2.6, 2024.45.32.10) yesterday. No improvements noticed on my 30 minute trip on local and highway driving today. Will continue to monitor my drives with the Cybertruck latest version.

 

I still don't have 13.2.6 FSD but have the trail version (13.2.2) that came with the new Model Y (not Juniper). I drove 500 miles yesterday in rain and show and It did pretty good in the snow (I5 north past Mt Shasta) on the Parelli M&S tyres but the most annoying thing was driving in heavy big rig,chain controlled traffic. Worst was the car, in the fast lane would quickly signal and move from the fast lane into the slow lane in an attempt to pass slower vehicles (ice and snow on the road) max set speed on the wrong side to pass legally. This error was compounded by there not being enough room on the right to complete a pass anyway, setting up an awkward return to the fast lane. It caused 4 separate disengagements by me which I reported to Tesla. I tried my preferred default Hurry mode followed by Standard and then Chill with the same if not worse results. Chill would camp in the slow lane following even the slowest chained up big rigs. I finally turned FSD off altogether and used cruise control for the remainder of the trip. Definitely not ready for primetime in situations like that. Driving around town or in normal weather conditions would be much less of a concern but considering Elon's promising full autonomy by June-ish there is much work to be done.

 

... but considering Elon's promising full autonomy by June-ish there is much work to be done.

June of 2017, Right??

 

Finding a few, reproducible, stale map problems. One problem is the car going into a soon ending, merge lane, instead of staying on the desired on-ramp:

Bob Wilson

 

Finding a few, reproducible, stale map problems. One problem is the car going into a soon ending, merge lane, instead of staying on the desired on-ramp:
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Bob Wilson

This is not the kind of thing that one can safely use only maps for - at least not around FL, as things change by the hour in many areas that are in a state of (perpetual) construction.

The few times I tried FSD under 'challenging' road conditions it felt like I was being driven by an old girlfriend who was myopic, but too vain to wear glasses. Much like that case, I would not trust it to 'see' far enough ahead to be safe.

 

things change by the hour in many areas that are in a state of (perpetual) construction.

At one time, speed zone changes from stale maps would brake hard enough we called them "phantom brake" events. These stale speed zones continue to be a problem as the speed limit signs, even if read, are ignored which can lead to the wrong speed for that section of road. So I've decided to "report <problem>" every time I find a reproducible fault.

Idle speculation, file a fault with the NHTSA . . . if anyone still works there.

Bob Wilson

 

@bwilson4web I had the same happening on my Tesla Model Y when I was on 12.6.x but not anymore in the 13.2.x
And I always stopped the FSD to get on the wrong lane and correct it.

 

My Tesla Model Y AI 4 FSD 13.2.7 will announce correctly my home is 1000 ft ahead on the right. About 400 feet away from my home the car will put on the left turn signal and slow down to turn in a driveway across from and before it reaches my home on the right. This happens frequently, but not always. I have videos. The navigation map always shows the correct location of my home. It is as if the FSD gets detached from the actual location on the map, though the car location is correctly shown on the display. This behavior began in 13.2.2. Any ideas? Tesla Service said is is an FSD problem.

 

will put on the left turn signal and slow down to turn in a driveway across from and before it reaches my home on the right. This happens frequently, but not always.

I've had this intermittently happen for quite awhile now, maybe preceding 13.2*. The release notes for 13.2.7 are still listing support for driveways and garages as an upcoming feature, so I have presumed it is just a hiccup in the matrix when it tries to turn into my neighbor's driveway.

 

It doesn't think your driveway connects to your house for some reason.