[ltphoto]

Glad you're enjoying the thread, apologies for not stopping in more often here to see how it's going (unless you tag me Beetlejuice-style, 3 times usually gets it done).

I'll chime in here as I've tried both and do have a set of the PureContact LS's ancestor - the non-LS version - that's been on both my Model 3 and now on our Volt.
They are pretty similar in overall intent, having said that my observations are:

Range: Too close to call without a proper controlled environment test and you make an excellent point that most folks are making an error when comparing end-of-life tire efficiency to brand new full tread ones, that can be an easy 2% loss right there on an identical replacement set.

Ride comfort: The Pure Contact gets the nod here as it's a little more touring oriented

Performance/Handling: ProContact RX wins, if subtly, as it's a bit sportier in construction/feel and has a softer compound for more ultimate grip at the limits

Treadwear: PureContact wins by a landslide as it has nearly twice the rating of the OE RX

Cost: PureContact is usually quite a bit cheaper as it's a broad-line aftermarket model as opposed to the RX's mostly OE-fitment intent

Noise - the PureContact LS is a great improvement over the original version so it's now close to the RX, but I think the RX is still a wee bit quieter

That almost exactly reflects my experience. I put on the PureContact LS mid-October and have about 4,000 miles on them. The only difference in my experience is that the PureContact seem a little quieter to me. That may be purely due to a difference in our hearing (I'm 64 years old) since I may not hear some of the higher frequencies the same. Overall I will be very happy with the PureContact if they get anywhere near the life I expect compared to OEM.

 

[TesFanMitch]

I'm coming up on tires very, so here it goes...

First of all, is that a typo or is there a different spec in Canada? My tires are 235/40R19

Now for the actual question, it seems the only "quiet" tires is to go right back to the Conti ProContact RX tires. Do you think I am reading too much into just how quiet these tires are? The main reason behind my question is that on highways that haven't been paved in a while (most down here) the car is insanely loud at speed where as when I hit freshly paved road it's silent. I like the silence, but more so worried about a louder tire being even worse on those older patches of road.

PS, I'd love to save money (without sacrifice of course) and my local tire shop has me at $1,170 USD for the 4 tires mounted and balanced. That's about $120 more than Tire Rack so it seems fair.

What say you oh wise one?

Thanks in advance!

What did you decide to go with?

 

[SoFlaModel3]

What did you decide to go with?

I went with Pirelli Cinurato P7 All Season Plus tires. Thought they were fine at first. Quickly they got louder than the OEM tires. When it came time to replace my wife's tires we went with the OEM Conti's.

 

[TesFanMitch]

I'm in Maryland trying to get 235/40/19 for my Model 3 AWD I have OEM Continental Pro Contact RX. I called Costco, tried Tire Rack they are telling me there are no other "All Season" tires with acoustic foam except for these original tires. My local Tesla service center is not doing tires right now. I've gotten 45,000 miles out of these. Getting a price of $293/ tire on tirerack.com. Are there other options as quiet with same rated range with similar characteristics& wear?

 

[2pix]

Update: I purchased some General Altimax RT43 tires for my 3rd tire set after two sets of the OEM Michelins. About half the price as the OEMs at Discount Tire. They were #1 on Consumer Reports tire issue for all season, not-summer-sporty tires.

Someone who has the General Altimax RT 43. I'm thinking about them for my next set. How are they holding up for you? I've had UHP A/S for the last two sets after the OEM Conti for the 19" which only made it 18k. Had Yokohama adven great on efficiency, grip and fair on noise, made it 24k. Then I got the idea to support tires made in USA. Currently on Goodyear exhilarates, on the performance side they are fantastic puts the power down and corners like you wouldn't believe, but my goodness they are noisy (in their defense they were intended for gas performance cars where you're more likely not to hear them) and tend to have a lumpy ride parked on any thing other than pavement until the tire rounds back out. I'll probably make it to 24k on this set too with very even wear. For the next set had my eye on the Michelin Sport All season 4 but they are on back order at discount tire. But then stepping back into HP touring with less noise is sounding good to me.

 

[TesFanMitch]

FYI, I just got my new tires installed at Costco. The OE Continental tires had bubbles in the sidewalls on both sides on 3 of them and they were noisy as hell.
I got the Bridgestone Turanza Quiettrack in OE size for the OEM 19" rims.
I have only, yet, driven on them for ~50 miles, but they are so much quieter that the original Conti's and feel much smoother and calmer for everyday driving. So, Continental can suck it with the foam in the tires which are completely useless.
One other detail, they seem to have a bit of lip around the rim that protrudes much more than the Conti's did to better protect from curb rash.

Also, Costco's warranty is far better than anything OEM would ever give you for tires as Tesla wasn't even interested in covering any of these since bubbles in the sidewall are considered to be caused by road hazards and not manufacturers defects. Costco also, by default, inflates tires with Nitrogen. I know this has been covered in many discussions and many claim it to be of negligible benefit, but the frequent and wide temperature swings here in Atlanta, it makes a huge difference in reducing inflation pressure variations.

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Looks like it's been a while how do you like your tires now? Still recommend them?

 

[TesFanMitch]

I'm in Maryland trying to get 235/40/19 for my Model 3 AWD I have OEM Continental Pro Contact RX. I called Costco, tried Tire Rack they are telling me there are no other "All Season" tires with acoustic foam except for these original tires. My local Tesla service center is not doing tires right now. I've gotten 45,000 miles out of these. Getting a price of $293/ tire on tirerack.com. Are there other options as quiet with same rated range with similar characteristics& wear?

I've ordered a set of Michelin Cross Climate 2's 🤞🙏 I like them

 

[Mesprit87]

I went with Pirelli Cinurato P7 All Season Plus tires. Thought they were fine at first. Quickly they got louder than the OEM tires. When it came time to replace my wife's tires we went with the OEM Conti's.

Nice information, it seems Pirelli still keep some of the characteristics they had in the '90s.
That's what I remember from the P6s

 

[John Slaby]

I have 2018 Model 3 Performance and am about due to replace the tires. As my driving behaviors have changed over the last 3 years, I am looking more at range and durability and less at performance. What would you recommend in 20" tires that prioritizes those things over performance.

1. Range / Low rolling resistance
2. Tread wear / Durability
3. Low noise
4. Performance / Handling
5. Ride Comfort
6. Cost

 

[Feathermerchant]

I'm speculating that 20" low profile tires will mostly be built for performance. I switched to 18" wheels for weight savings, durability and greater tire selection. I'm running Michelin MXV 245/45-18

 

[John Slaby]

I'm speculating that 20" low profile tires will mostly be built for performance. I switched to 18" wheels for weight savings, durability and greater tire selection. I'm running Michelin MXV 245/45-18

Yes, I realize that and I am looking for the best compromise in 20" to increase range without replacing the wheels. However, if that's the only answer, then I'll see about switching. Thanks for the reply.

 

[Dfwatt]

I have 2018 Model 3 Performance and am about due to replace the tires. As my driving behaviors have changed over the last 3 years, I am looking more at range and durability and less at performance. What would you recommend in 20" tires that prioritizes those things over performance.

1. Range / Low rolling resistance
2. Tread wear / Durability
3. Low noise
4. Performance / Handling
5. Ride Comfort
6. Cost

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2021-Tyre-Reviews-UHP-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm

Intriguingly the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 beats the 4S including in terms of rolling resistance where it's roughly a full 10% better. The problem of course with these findings is we really don't know what Michelin did to the tech inside the OEM Tesla spec version of the 4S. So take all those reports on the PS4S and the PS4 with a grain of salt but you can see rolling resistance test was won by a tire I've never heard of. I wouldn't recommend it based on its performance particularly its dry braking. Both the Pilot Sport 4 and the Pilot Sport 4S were close to if not at the top of the Heap in terms of emergency braking.

 

[Mad Hungarian]

I have 2018 Model 3 Performance and am about due to replace the tires. As my driving behaviors have changed over the last 3 years, I am looking more at range and durability and less at performance. What would you recommend in 20" tires that prioritizes those things over performance.

1. Range / Low rolling resistance
2. Tread wear / Durability
3. Low noise
4. Performance / Handling
5. Ride Comfort
6. Cost

Finding a true LRR model in 235/35R20 has traditionally been near impossible, however Michelin now offers their excellent Pilot Sport AS/4 in this.
I haven't been able to find the EU tire label data for that exact size, but the majority of the other 20" sizes that are not runflats have a "B" score on rolling resistance, which is outstanding for a true UHP.
With a 540 treadwear they should last at least 50% longer than your original PS4s, so that's boxes 1 and 2 ticked and I'm quite confident they'll do great on 3 through 5 as well.
As for number 6? Well yeah, they're pricy. But you want top shelf? Goes with the territory .

 

[John Slaby]

Finding a true LRR model in 235/35R20 has traditionally been near impossible, however Michelin now offers their excellent Pilot Sport AS/4 in this.
I haven't been able to find the EU tire label data for that exact size, but the majority of the other 20" sizes that are not runflats have a "B" score on rolling resistance, which is outstanding for a true UHP.
With a 540 treadwear they should last at least 50% longer than your original PS4s, so that's boxes 1 and 2 ticked and I'm quite confident they'll do great on 3 through 5 as well.
As for number 6? Well yeah, they're pricy. But you want top shelf? Goes with the territory .

Thanks, this is exactly the kind of advice I was hoping for, and I knew you were the most likely person to be able to provide it. You rock!

 

[RogerC]

Recently had a third service call to correct defects caused by initial first and second failed service calls (all for the same very simple issue) at Tesla Palm Springs-Cathedral City Service Center (horrible experience.... will gladly drive an extra hour to avoid this place in the future), during which they checked tire wear.

Original equipment tires with 31,000 miles. Both front tires had inner tread measurement at 1mm. Both back tires had inner and middle tread at 0mm. Summary report stated "Tire replacement recommendation = No".

Is this typical?

 

[RoyGBiv]

I've ordered a set of Michelin Cross Climate 2's 🤞🙏 I like them

I am also thinking about MCC2s. How is your mileage? Are they as quite as the OEM and how is responsiveness on dry and wet roads? Any snow yet?

 

[sonoswen]

The Nokian WR G4 tires have been working great here in Western Oregon. Not a lot of snow, 4-8 inches, now down to a couple of inches with some black ice. Really glad I put them on last month. Am I going up into the Cascades where they go and number of feet of snow...no.

 

[Mad Hungarian]

Recently had a third service call to correct defects caused by initial first and second failed service calls (all for the same very simple issue) at Tesla Palm Springs-Cathedral City Service Center (horrible experience.... will gladly drive an extra hour to avoid this place in the future), during which they checked tire wear.

Original equipment tires with 31,000 miles. Both front tires had inner tread measurement at 1mm. Both back tires had inner and middle tread at 0mm. Summary report stated "Tire replacement recommendation = No".

Is this typical?

Tire replacement recommendation = No

Wow.

Yeah, 31,000 miles isn't unusual for either the 18" Michelins or the 19" Contis, or most OE tires for that matter. Although it's a gross generalization, when spec'ing compounds the OEMs are big on trying to wow both you and the press with the car's performance capabilities and could care less how long they last. You can find many longer wearing alternatives in this thread, however you'll likely give up a bit of grip if you want them to last significantly longer. Having said that it's not as big a tradeoff as you might think, plenty of folks here running tires with 700+ treadwear ratings and seemingly happy with their performance, so it's all about priorities.

 

[RogerC]

...so it's all about priorities.

Thanks. So with these in mind....

1. Low noise
2. Ride comfort
3. Tread wear / Durability
4. Performance / Handling
6. Cost

I'm leaning toward a new set of the OE Michelin Primacy MXM4's. Could I do any better?

 

[PiperPaul]

Thanks. So with these in mind....

1. Low noise
2. Ride comfort
3. Tread wear / Durability
4. Performance / Handling
6. Cost

I'm leaning toward a new set of the OE Michelin Primacy MXM4's. Could I do any better?

I was very disappointed with the short life of my Michelin Primacy MXM4's so I switched to Michelin Cross Climate + tires and am still happy with them for every point on your priority list.
Some of that discussion is in this thread ending in https://teslaownersonline.com/threa...om/threads/model-3-replacement-tire-discussion-oem-sizes-only.13024/post-308445