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Any tips for road tripping? Wife and I are picking up our model Y Saturday

This is our first EV

Wife will be going to visit her mom during spring break which starts the weekend after.

Already got the CCS adapter, Amazon man brought us that last night

Aside from 'planning around charging' ie stop to eat when you stop to charge, any neat ideas that could save time/money/frustration?
 

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A few days before leaving I will charge my car to 90% and enter my destination to see which charging stops Navigation will recommend. If I'm planning to stop for a meal I check which charging stop will likely be the one and I make sure there are some interesting restaurant choices. If not I may decide to pick a different charging stop on my way.

Also on a long trip always enter a destination in Navigation so that the car knows when to start conditioning the battery for faster charging.

Finally if your destination is in an area that's poorly served with chargers, make sure your enter a return trip in Navigation (home -> destination -> home). That way the car will make sure your have enough battery power to reach a charger on your return leg.
 

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You'll save significant time at the Superchargers if you get comfortable running "the bottom" of the battery. That is, charge just enough to get to your next Supercharger (plus a comfortable buffer). On the navigation screen, your car will tell you when you have enough charge to leave, and this estimate is quite reliable as long as your speed isn't terribly excessive, and you don't encounter adverse weather. If the car wants you to charge past 80-85%, investigate any interim Superchargers that the car might be skipping. Charging past 80% takes WAY too long. Many of these suggestions require a comfort level that only experience can generate. Trust the car until such time as you're confident enough to decide that you know better than the car.
 

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@Luteif congratulations on the new car. Hope you enjoy it as much as I have my Teslas.

Advice: Don’t waste time charging up to a high state of charge at each supercharger. You will get fastest charging if you arrive at the next charging stop with < 20%.

Question: where will you be traveling that you feel the need for a CCS adapter? I have been traveling for 5 years in my Teslas and never needed one.
 

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Houghton, MI

She will need to stop at the supercharger in Marquette on the way of course. If she did 0 driving while staying with her mom in Houghton she could probably make it back

But there is a new charge point charger right downtown so why not use that. I don't think her mom will let her charge it from the stove outlet, she's worried about it going splody

Not a whole lot of superchargers in the Yoop as of yet (Escanaba is the only other one that I can see)
 

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Yeah if I was driving I would make good time. I'm already at least familiar with the idea of only charging enough to make it to the next charger. I was going to buy a polestar so I have been playing with abrp a lot

Unfortunately the wife beat me to it, we needed a car since her van was totalled

Toyota Sienna is hybrid, but so much higher priced it would take 5-6 years to pay off VS oddysey

So we checked out Tesla, almost same price (5 seat tesla) and I can start saving now. It's my money and I need it now!

I have to work spring break week

Since it will be her and the kids I imagine she would stop to eat at least once whilst charging, probably fill up then

Otherwise we will load up on mperks it seems all the superchargers in Michigan are in Meijers parking lots
 

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I don't think her mom will let her charge it from the stove outlet
I have a number of relatives I visit where I plug it into a normal 120 outlet. It is slow charging but as it sits there overnight or several days, it becomes substantial. I eventually started kicking my mother’s car out of her garage so that I could use the faster dryer outlet. But if the host is worried about the safety…. Nevermind….
 
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Already got the CCS adapter, Amazon man brought us that last night
CCS fast chargers in the US are notoriously unreliable. Try to stick to Tesla Superchargers.

I don't think her mom will let her charge it from the stove outlet, she's worried about it going splody
That's a shame. Overnight L2 charging would be much preferable to spending time visiting the one CCS charger in town.

The CCS1 station in Houghton, MI only has two 62kW chargers, and one of them appears to have been non-functional for many months.

 

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Hello everyone,
Any tips for road tripping? Wife and I are picking up our model Y Saturday

This is our first EV

Wife will be going to visit her mom during spring break which starts the weekend after.

Already got the CCS adapter, Amazon man brought us that last night

Aside from 'planning around charging' ie stop to eat when you stop to charge, any neat ideas that could save time/money/frustration?
You didn't mention how far of a trip it was. Makes a difference.
First, just ask the car to route you to the destination. It's very conservative and makes sure that you get in with over 10% charge.
In the manual Tesla indicates that it is quite alright to start at 100% charge, don't be afraid to do so.
As long as it is routing, it will let you know if it doesn't look like you are going to make the destination and tell you to slow down.
For about every 5 mph over 60 that you do, you'll lose about 10% of the range. Going 80 eats up a lot of range. Dependent on how far you are going (or distance to the next Supercharger) that may not make a difference.
Once you see the route in the car, hit the screen and turn on the chargers on the upper right corner popup with the lightning bolt. You'll then see what your options look like if something happens. There may be an intermediate charger that may make more sense to stop at, maybe because you need to take a break or have some lunch.

ABETTERROUTEPLANNER.com will give you yet another view of a possible route and charger options.

Load the PlugShare.com app on your phone (and wife's). While it shows Superchargers, it also shows effectively every known charger. CCS, CHAdeMO, and J-1772.
The J-1772 chargers will take 3+ hours to charge the car, so not the greatest to stop at, ut if you find yourself running low, it's better than nothing and also goes a long way to help with range anxiety.
J-1772 are great for locations where you are going to stay for a while, hotels, restaurants, malls, etc.

I don't remember of the cars come with the 120V adapter these days, but if you have one, get a heavy duty extension cord (12g for 50ft and 10g for 100 ft) to charge at your moms. This will add about 50 miles per 12 hours.

And remember, charge up before you get to your destination, because once you get there, you'll want to go somewhere else or show the car off. Sitting in empty takes the fun out of it.

Superchargers are easy, just plug in. Take a look at the rate on the station's charging rates, The V3 stations charge at 250 kW and the V2 are 150 KW. The V3 stations charge faster, but only if you are below 30% charge (above that the V2 charges at same rate) (and above 90%, the J-1772 charges the same).
At V2 stations, you need to look at the numbers on the pedestals, You'll see 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, etc. The A and B stations are paired and if someone is using the other one, you may not get as fast of a charge. So you want to try to park at an unpaired station. Also, look closely at the number, while 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, order is common, they may be 1A, 2A, 3A, 1B, 2B, 3B.
At a Supercharger, you probably don't want to go beyond 80% charge, definitely don't go beyond 90% (unless you really need to) It just takes too long.

But most importantly, just enjoy the car and the trip.
 

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Luteif, My wife and I recently completed a 1000+ mile trip with our new MYP. First feedback, fantastic experience even when at the endpoint being a city without any Tesla SCs. We started L2 charged at 90% at the house, then SC on the way down, L1 J1772 at the hotel for the overnight. Next day started at 90%, drove and then SC back to 90% before arriving at the endpoint city. Spent time in that city, driving misc, and then hit non Tesla L3 using CCS adapter. Compared to Tesla SC, the experience at non-Tesla with CCS was not fun, due to the size of the CCS, but necessary; we did EVGO. My advice, always hit the nearest SC before the overnight stops. Always start the next day at 90% for long trips. Avoid L1s/J1772 if you can due to the slow rate of charge, overnight at a hotel ok, and always seek out L2 or L3SCs when mobile. Research the end point city you will be in for fastest rate of charge options; Tesla SCs first, if none, L2s, and then L1s if absolutely necessary. My research of my endpoint city of Blacksburg, VA showed no Tesla SCs in the city and only one L2 which was EVGO and readied the app and billing at my home city first to make sure no issues when traveling. Have one or more non Tesla apps ready to bill charging. I did not like Blink wants to hold $20 therefore my 2nd non Tesla app is Chargepoint. How embarrassing for Chargepoint that it only had L1s in Blacksburg.
Btw, we had L1 at home for 3 months and now on L2/48Amps at home, its amazing due to the speed of the charge.
 
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Tesla's superchargers are the best option on the road - very reliable and they just work. Having the CCS is good, but I would try to rely on the Tesla network when you can. Charge to 100% right before you leave. Maybe charge a little more than what the onboard computer says to at stops for your first trip, just to be safe. Speed will kill range, as will rain, snow, headwinds, cold, elevation gain, etc. EVs are very efficient, meaning the slightest change in conditions can vary the range more than with a gas car. It's rarely a problem with long range vehicles and plenty of charging options though. If you're staying somewhere that doesn't have a destination charger, supercharge as soon as you get into town, rather than the next morning. This will ensure your battery is warm and charges faster. I recommend navigating to the supercharger so that your car knows to precondition the battery.

Don't forget your mobile charger! I also bought a spare tire from modernspare.com because I drive a lot of rural highways. They're available on Amazon as well - I got a jack and tire change kit as well.
 

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Hello everyone,
Any tips for road tripping? Wife and I are picking up our model Y Saturday

This is our first EV

Wife will be going to visit her mom during spring break which starts the weekend after.

Already got the CCS adapter, Amazon man brought us that last night

Aside from 'planning around charging' ie stop to eat when you stop to charge, any neat ideas that could save time/money/frustration?
I just did a 1200 mile trip. My main thing is to try to stop at 250 chargers if possible. Since they don't share power with the car next to you it makes a big difference in the time it takes to charge. I really enjoyed the trip and it was very relaxing.
 

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You will be amazed at the numbers of locations you can charge that are not on any app. A case in point is the Okefenokee Wildlife Refuge in the middle of nowhere South Georgia just above the Florida border. I went Kayaking there last November and was able to plug in at the fish cleaning station in the park next to the launch ramp. It had a 14-50 plug, and I was able to completely recharge while on the paddle trip during the day. Make sure you have a few adapters to use your mobile charger in places that are off the map. Another one you will want to get is the one used in RV parks (can't recall the number) but it is NOT available from Tesla. There are aftermarket sources for these adapters (I think EVSE adapters) so do some research. We were also able to plug in at the campground with this adapter. You will be surprised by the number of businesses and hotels that have chargers - usually J1772 type - and they are slow but will help you. During my last trip to Orlando, the hotel had a ChargePoint terminal that took nearly 14 hours to charge me back to 90% but I was going to be there a few days for a conference so no big deal. Even my Dermatologist has two ChargePoint terminals (J1772) in the parking garage at his office - and they are free! My neighborhood grocery has two Volta J1772 terminals, and I always plug in there and get free power when going to the store. Same thing with Whole Foods - they have 4 chargers - all free.
Make sure you have the J1772, the 14-50, and the RV adapters for the Tesla Mobile charger, and you will be able to open a lot of other choices you do not have now. And for kicks, I also bought the CCS to Tesla adapter, but have not found the need to use it yet. If I do, I have the adapter to do it.
Follow the car recommendations as to how long to charge. I always add another 5% just in case of an accident on the road and we are delayed or must detour. The lowest the car ever let me get was 9% and then we only needed 14 minutes to make the next Supercharger. Entering your destination and intermediate stops allows the car to calculate how much you need and so far, I find it pretty accurate - even conservative in the estimation. No fear of running out of battery and we have taken several road trips including some off the beaten path. Be prepared with the right adapters and then be confident and rest easy.
 

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Hello everyone,
Any tips for road tripping? Wife and I are picking up our model Y Saturday

This is our first EV

Wife will be going to visit her mom during spring break which starts the weekend after.

Already got the CCS adapter, Amazon man brought us that last night

Aside from 'planning around charging' ie stop to eat when you stop to charge, any neat ideas that could save time/money/frustration?
My 2 tips are:
1) Plan your trip so that you will run the battery down to at least 15-20% - believe it or not, it will charge FASTER that way (for the juice you will put into it) then charge to 100%
2) Plan the places you will stop for charging to make sure there's something TO DO there - restaraunt nearby, shopping, etc... Usually by the time you use up your charge you will be getting hungry or need to stretch anyway and a nice coffee shop is a great place to spend an hour...
 

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CCS fast chargers in the US are notoriously unreliable. Try to stick to Tesla Superchargers.


That's a shame. Overnight L2 charging would be much preferable to spending time visiting the one CCS charger in town.

The CCS1 station in Houghton, MI only has two 62kW chargers, and one of them appears to have been non-functional for many months.

See if there’s an outdoor plug (regular 110) or one you can access in the garage. Overnight you can add 30-40 mile range.

As far as other planning, I’d just put the destination in the car nav — depending on current state of charge, it may have like an extra stop that if you charge up—but it gives you a good idea of what you do.

To be a little more geeked out, download Abetterroutplanner app. You can do a lot of what if’s and consider alternatives. I use it sometimes, but usually I get good results just using the car nav.

I’ve been doing several medium and long road trips since 2019 and love it (Model 3, LR). Now I’d I have to use a ICE car, I feel cheated.
 

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Supercharging is nice and I'm sure I would use it most of the time. Wife will probably too

Especially since she's not a real techie anyways she rarely even uses cruise control

I think the thing is, going up north there's very few superchargers but there are a few ccs. Heck there's one in copper harbor

Plugging in at the house will probably not be allowed. I think her mom has Already vowed that she won't ride in the tesla

I think having options is nice too. When we had the tesla for the weekend test drive we supercharged in Kalamazoo. Which is right in the Meijers parking lot. There was an oriental place across the street which wasn't bad but the wife hated it. Further down the street there's an EA next to Texas roadhouse. While I'm not going to eat every time I charge it's definitely a concern at lunch time and dinner time

On the way back from Cleveland the tesla route planner want us to charge in Maumee oh. Again Meijers parking lot, closest restaurant is Chipotles. Sorry don't want norovirus. Etc.
 

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Plugging in at the house will probably not be allowed. I think her mom has Already vowed that she won't ride in the tesla
Tell her that you're happy to support West Virginia coal miners with your choice of car, while she continues to support Saudi Arabia and the Ayatollah. ;)

Further down the street there's an EA next to Texas roadhouse. While I'm not going to eat every time I charge it's definitely a concern at lunch time and dinner time
That EA location has six chargers, and appears to have pretty good reviews on Plugshare. (y)

On the way back from Cleveland the tesla route planner want us to charge in Maumee oh. Again Meijers parking lot
I've charged at the Maumee supercharger several times. :)
There's a Packos on the other side of that parking lot, if you don't mind the walk.
Or you can always pick up something at Meijers to eat in the car.
 

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Tomorrow is the day

Supercharging is nice and I'm sure I would use it most of the time. Wife will probably too

Especially since she's not a real techie anyways she rarely even uses cruise control

I think the thing is, going up north there's very few superchargers but there are a few ccs. Heck there's one in copper harbor

Plugging in at the house will probably not be allowed. I think her mom has Already vowed that she won't ride in the tesla

I think having options is nice too. When we had the tesla for the weekend test drive we supercharged in Kalamazoo. Which is right in the Meijers parking lot. There was an oriental place across the street which wasn't bad but the wife hated it. Further down the street there's an EA next to Texas roadhouse. While I'm not going to eat every time I charge it's definitely a concern at lunch time and dinner time

On the way back from Cleveland the tesla route planner want us to charge in Maumee oh. Again Meijers parking lot, closest restaurant is Chipotles. Sorry don't want norovirus. Etc.
Not sure why her mom won't ride in a Tesla... Maybe it's because it's TOO SAFE?? Tesla owners are 50% less likely to be involved in an accident and have the highest ratings for accident safety if they do get in one. They are VERY misunderstood when it comes to that, mostly because the 'press' has gone out of their way to 'juggle' things to make them look worse... Read an article that said they account for the MOST accidents for driver assist crashes, having reported 297 out of 400 reported... SOUNDS BAD, but when you account for the actual numbers of vehicles ON THE ROAD, it's actually LESS than the other 11 automakers using driver-assist. How? Well, take for example Honda's only had 90 of the 400... But they only have about 19,550 on the road... Compare that to the 1.5 MILLION Tesla has... Now do some simple math to find out how likely you are to have an accident in a Honda (90/19550) or Tesla (297/1,500,000).

Show her these if she is still scared - it shows how much SAFER autopilot is than 'regular' drivers:
Tesla Vehicle Safety Report | Tesla

So yeah, as my wife said, it's nice to know our Model Y is safer than a Volvo!
 
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