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My Tesla Model Y 2024 LR AWD : battery surveillance

3.8K views 19 replies 3 participants last post by  voldar  
#1 · (Edited)
Almost two months ago, the 20th of June, I exchanged my 2023 Tesla Model 3 LR AWD for a 2024 Tesla Model Y LR AWD. There were three things that made me do the switch :
  • the price and incentives we had here for 2024, in Canada
  • the HW4 in the Model Y
  • the tow hitch
Since I got it, I drove 3 457 km (2,148 miles) already (although short drives) and I am impressed by its efficiency : 168 Wh/km (270 Wh/mi or 3.7 mi/kWh). And the efficiency continues to go down as longer trips are ahead. During this time I did tow and the efficiency took a beating, but not as much as I expected.
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I made a thread about my Model 3 after a month of ownership and since then, one thing has changed: the adition of the red alert in the camera image when a car is in the blind spot which IMO is very effective

The efficiency compared between the two is surprisingly close : about 10% in average. That's pretty awesome for a car that is larger (height, width and weight) than my Model 3.
Tesla Model 3 after 1 month :
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Tesla Model Y after 2 months :
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An exemple of efficiency when I drive longish trips (to and from work)
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An exemple of efficiency when I drive short trips (doing grocery) :
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The above pictures show that the Tesla Model Y in short commutes usage is less efficient. Which is understandable.
And yes, I always use the HVAC in Auto 21C.

I have FSD (monthly subscription) and I drive my Tesla Model Y mostly in FSD to train the AI with Montreal driving, not only California driving. It is not perfect, but it is consistent : it makes always the same mistakes. Which is a great thing, because this way I know beforehand in what situations it will behave different than expected. And it is better and better with every iteration.
 
#2 · (Edited)
And one last thing. My Tesla Model Y is Fremont built with NCA battery (vs NMC battery I had on my Tesla Model 3) that I drive mostly short runs, I charge it to 55% daily only. When I go in longer trips I charge it to 100% to allow the BMS to balance its numbers. I did charge it two times to 100% in the two months of ownership.
Teslafi shows today this :
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#5 ·
Wow thanks for sharing. So much math and statistics. :oops:

FWIW, the M3H RWD with 19" Nova avg 118wh/km per the computer since I got it on end June. Mix of city & hwy. My wife that drives it half the time treat it like an ICE vehicle. A/C and seat ventilation cooling on in the summer. Although she does drive in Chill mode.
 
#6 · (Edited)
Great efficiency on the 2024 Model 3 RWD Highland ! Unfortunately for me, the Model 3 ingress/egress and the lack of towing capacity were the two things that drove me towards a Model Y AWD. And the new suspension on the Model Y !

My daily usage is really very short and I am not really driving for efficiency (Normal mode and 21C Auto HVAC all year long). The above information is related to my Model Y AWD. After a year of ownership of a Tesla Model 3 AWD I had an efficiency of 166 Wh/km, this including the winter 2024. Which was pretty good, considering that my efficiency over 4.5 years of my Bolt EV ownership was 240 Wh/km. It is true though, I drove 5 winters in these 4.5 years of ownership and during covid times I drove less than 8 000 km/year and mostly during winter.

P.S. One thing you should absolutely do on your Model 3 : replace the mudflaps that came on your Tesla with one of these ones. For whatever reasons, Tesla decided to put crappy mudflaps on the Model 3 vs the ones on Model Y.

Model Y :
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Model 3 :
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#7 ·
Tesla did come with their stock mudguards which I didn't install. Instead replaced it with something more streamlined. I think it should suffice. Since it's RWD, the fronts shouldn't be kicking up a storm. <shrug>

I am sure winter season will degrade the Highland's efficiency. Bjorn Nyland achieved 99wh/km or something crazy with the M3H. :oops:
 
#13 · (Edited)
May 2nd - Nominal pack = 77.4 kWh
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Interesting enough, it looks like the BMS reads higher capacity now, in May vs March. I am not sure why, I charge my Tesla to 55%, didn't charge it to 100% in the last 6 to 7 months. This means the battery temperature does have an impact on the BMS readings.

Teslafi today is showing a 0.51% loss over almost 11 months of ownership.
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77.8 / 77.4 = 0.52 % loss. Could be the decimals, so I can consider Teslafi as very accurate.
P.S. The numbers are in KM not MILES.
 
#17 · (Edited)
So, what does all these mean ? Well, it means that anyone can get an idea of their battery degradation by only using the Energy app screen, no need to do the whole Battery degradation cycle that's now available in the UI. Although the Scan my Tesla app shows 78.8 kWh battery capacity (full capacity when new), I never saw this number, I could only see 78 kWh two days after getting my car. Also, it looks like the best reading is the one taken at the 15 km (10 miles in the US Tesla).
Based on these numbers, I can say that the degradation of my Tesla battery is (1 - 77.2 / 78) = 1% after 11 months of ownership and 8,005 miles (12,883 km).
Given the fact that the EPA number for my Tesla was 496 km, if we subtract 1% this means I should see 491 km at full.
Right now I see 270 km @ 55% which equals to 490,9 km, which is in line with the above.
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Teslafi is showing an EPA number of 492 km based on the BMS readings.
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