New Buyer Concerns

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GreekGuy

Discussion Starter · 1 mo ago

We've narrowed our new car search down to two, leaning towards the Tesla Y, but have a few concerns/questions I was hoping owners can answer:
1. I live in a hot climate, so being able to remotely cool off the car is a MUST. Does the Tesla app do this? What level of connectivity subscription do I need to do this?
2. Does the app have a vehicle locator? I sometimes forget to note where I parked in big parking lots! Again, what level of subscription do I need for this?
3. Does the Y come with adaptive cruise control, or is that part of the $6,000 self-driving upgrade?
4. Lane keep assist/departure prevention - included, or part of an upgrade?
5. Does it have vented/cooled seats? (really nice in a hot climate - back sweat)
6. Anyone have experience with EV6 and offer additional pros/cons of each?

Thanks!

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garsh

· #2 · 1 mo ago

Hi @GreekGuy!

1. Yes, you can cool the car from the app. No subscription necessary.
2. Yes, the app will geolocate your vehicle, and it's very good. It even gets the vehicle orientation correct. No subscription necessary.
3. Yes, adaptive cruise control is included. No FSD or EAP upgrade necessary.
4. Basic Autopilot (lane keeping) & lane departure prevention/warning are included. No FSD or EAP upgrade necessary.
5. No ventilated seats for the Model Y. Sorry.
6. I have a Hyundai Ioniq 5 (Hyundai's version of the Kia EV6). Feel free to read through my review and ask additional questions within that thread.

More information about what a Premium Connectivity subscription actually provides:

www.tesla.com

Connectivity | Tesla Support Other Europe

Connectivity is an important part of all Tesla vehicles, further enhancing the driving experience by providing access to features that require data usage. Find out more about Standard and Premium Connectivity.

www.tesla.com

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NJturtlePower

· #3 · 1 mo ago

Garsh covered all your concerns pretty well, I'll just add that if you did ever want to try out any of the more advanced Tesla EAP/FSD features you can do so month-to-month now, jump in and out as you like. Perfect for those who lease as well where it would make little sense to buy and give it back at the end of your term.

www.tesla.com

Full Self-Driving Capability Subscriptions | Tesla Support

If you have not already purchased FSD capability and your vehicle has FSD computer 3.0 or above, you can subscribe to FSD capability from the Tesla app. Learn more about FSD capability subscription.

www.tesla.com

I've jumped into FSD a few months here and there over the years, especially useful if you have some long drives or road trip planned.

Nice to see the advances over the years as well, but for my typical driving and limited commute buying FSD outright has never made much sense.

My original early 2018 Model 3 LR RWD did not even come with standard Autopilot as they all do now... added mine for $2k if I remember about a year into ownership.

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ThAbtO

· #4 · 1 mo ago

GreekGuy said:
Does the Y come with adaptive cruise control, or is that part of the $6,000 self-driving upgrade?

Its called Auto-pilot and it will keep you in the lane, traffic aware cruise control. It will slow to a stop if needed. It does need to be disengaged and re-engaged when changing lanes, can't do it on its own. To do this, need EAP/FSD and that is about 15K now, or a monthly price.

Luvtordrive

· #5 · 1 mo ago

GreekGuy said:
What level of connectivity subscription do I need to do this?

5. Does it have vented/cooled seats? (really nice in a hot climate - back sweat)

Thanks!

GG, the seat warmer does work well in the cold weather.

I would highly recommend paying for the annual Premium connectivity package. Below is a list of what is included. Even if you're not into the streaming music service (although it is very good and comprehensive) or Caraoke, the live traffic visualization if quite good and I find it as accurate as WAZE during my commutes to NYC.

Premium Connectivity provides the ability to access all connectivity features over cellular, in addition to Wi-Fi, for the most intuitive and engaging ownership experience. Premium Connectivity currently is available as a monthly subscription of $9.99 plus applicable tax or as an annual subscription of $99 plus applicable tax and can be purchased at any time from your vehicle touchscreen or the Tesla app. Orders of Model S, Model X, Model Y and Model 3 will receive a Premium Connectivity trial at delivery.
If you own a Tesla vehicle for personal use, you can subscribe to Premium Connectivity from your vehicle touchscreen or the Tesla app. If you are driving a company vehicle, contact your vehicle provider for more information.
Connectivity Packages

Connectivity Packages	Standard	Premium
Navigation		x
Live Traffic Visualization		x
Sentry Mode - View Live Camera		x
Satellite-View Maps		x
Video Streaming**		x
Caraoke*		x
Music Streaming**		x
Internet Browser*		x

Features subject to change and may vary based on hardware configuration
*Currently available over Wi-Fi for Standard Connectivity
**A paid subscription to streaming services is required to access music and media streaming

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Yeahnah

· #6 · 1 mo ago

If you are looking for your car in the carpark one option you can do is honk your horn or flash your lights using your phone a handy feature if there is more than 1 tesla in the carpark

GreekGuy

Discussion Starter · #7 · 1 mo ago

Ohhhh... just realized no Android Auto - so if I want to have navigation with traffic, I need the premium connection package? Does the phone connect to the car at all - contacts, for example, are they available for the navigation, and can I make/receive calls and text messages?
Definitely will miss the Android Auto apps like Plex and PlugShare!

GreekGuy

Discussion Starter · #8 · 1 mo ago

Yeahnah said:
If you are looking for your car in the carpark one option you can do is honk your horn or flash your lights using your phone a handy feature if there is more than 1 tesla in the carpark

That works if you're near the car, but I do some REALLY big parking lots (think theme parks) where that's not going to help. My current vehicle (a GM) has a nice feature where I can see on a map where my car is parked with respect to my GPS position.

Bigriver

· #9 · 1 mo ago

GreekGuy said:
so if I want to have navigation with traffic, I need the premium connection package?

Navigation is free, and I believe the routing will always account for traffic. If you want the visualization of the traffic on the map, then you have to pay for premium connectivity.

GreekGuy said:
Does the phone connect to the car at all - contacts, for example, are they available for the navigation, and can I make/receive calls and text messages?

Yes, your phone connects. Yes, you can make phone calls and texts via the in car system. Your contacts are available to the car, but no, not for navigation. You can separately save any addresses to navigation Favorites in the car.

GreekGuy said:
My current vehicle (a GM) has a nice feature where I can see on a map where my car is parked with respect to my GPS position.

Exactly same capability on Tesla app. I am not understanding the other response to flash lights or honk horn - that is not needed with a Tesla.

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garsh

· #10 · 1 mo ago

GreekGuy said:
Ohhhh... just realized no Android Auto - so if I want to have navigation with traffic, I need the premium connection package?

As @Bigriver explained, navigation will still take traffic into account, it just won't display a visualization.

However, I believe there's a workaround when you don't have premium connectivity - you can tether the car to your phone for an internet connection to access most of those "premium connectivity" features. It's a bit of a hassle, because the car turns off wifi when you put it into drive, so you'd have to manually turn it back on at the beginning of each drive.

Does the phone connect to the car at all - contacts, for example, are they available for the navigation, and can I make/receive calls and text messages?

Tesla does the standard bluetooth connection to a phone. This can be used to stream music, send/receive calls, and send/receive text messages.

FOTOGUZZI

· #11 · 1 mo ago

Wait, you might not get a Tesla because you have to pay $99 a year for premium connectivity? That’s funny.
Android auto is that good?

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garsh

· #12 · 1 mo ago

FOTOGUZZI said:
Android auto is that good?

Compared to MOST manufacturer's built-in navigation systems, it's a must have. But until you've owned a Tesla, you don't realize just how good Tesla's navigation is, and think that Android Auto is still a must-have.

That said, there are still times when I ran Google Maps Navigation or Waze in addition to using Tesla's navigation.

Waze is great for telling you about road hazards and speed traps.
Maps Navigation is great for constantly updating a list of alternate routes, along with time differences.

But that's about it. Tesla's ability to automatically include supercharger stops for long trips is essential. But the BEST feature of Tesla's navigation is that it shows an accurate estimate of your car's expected battery level on arrival. I have to admit that I simply took this for granted, but now that I have a Hyundai Ioniq 5 instead of a Tesla, that's the #1 feature that I miss. Having that information does SO MUCH for giving you peace-of-mind and avoiding range anxiety.

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kpanda17

· #13 · 30 d ago

if you are addicted to Waze, go with the Magbak iphone Tesla display mount
through intense primetime traffic areas, Wash DC, NY, etc, I typically use both, Teslas nav and waze running on the iphone
interesting that Google owns both navs and at times, def during intense traffic, they will differ with directions at a given point
but as stated, the T nav is amazing with pre cond the batt on the way to the SC
we never have range anxiety, have every adapter to be ready for anything although the TSC is always the best

and Greek brother, we have 2x Ts and no regrets

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Alfie

· #14 · 30 d ago

Coming from ICE, android auto and apple car play is a HUGE thing for most people. There are ways to get connected and this is one of the simpliest way: AA for Tesla
HOWEVER, i'm finding Tesla navigation very easy to use. Spotify, however... is an issue after the premium connection. although you can play it through using bluetooth, I wanted it to be built in but... it's an adjustment I had to deal with.

Ed Woodrick

· #15 · 30 d ago

Let me put it simply, there's nowhere in the US where the temperature is high and there's not an abundance of Teslas.
I just went from Orlando to cocoa Beach and back and saw over 40 Teslas.
The Tesla nav system is as good as any and thats how the car takes care of you. It tells you where to stop and how long to stop when on a trip. And it's on a screen that's nice and easy see.
I'm on my way back to ATL now and the car's doing a great job, I'm just sitting here watching it. It's turning off an exit right now as we stop for charging

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GreekGuy

Discussion Starter · #16 · 30 d ago

kpanda17 said:
if you are addicted to Waze, go with the Magbak iphone Tesla display mount
through intense primetime traffic areas, Wash DC, NY, etc, I typically use both, Teslas nav and waze running on the iphone
interesting that Google owns both navs and at times, def during intense traffic, they will differ with directions at a given point
but as stated, the T nav is amazing with pre cond the batt on the way to the SC
we never have range anxiety, have every adapter to be ready for anything although the TSC is always the best

and Greek brother, we have 2x Ts and no regrets

We just ordered one. Well, started to order one, but this online ordering process is buggy. Hopefully we'll get through it.

kpanda17

· #17 · 29 d ago

GG, you did not bring up flat tires, but at a min invest in the Tesla tire repair kit and be curious like me about the ModernSpare kit for long trips, I'm just waiting for the trip to come up, all vehicles get flats, but the very min Tesla includes is roadside assistance which is not perfect since in the Pandemic/USA with long wait times, I would rather drive to the repair

Klaus-rf

· #18 · 29 d ago

Ed Woodrick said:
And it's on a screen that's nice and easy see.

As long as you don't need to read the tiny, tiny font.

francoisp

· #19 · 29 d ago

Klaus-rf said:
As long as you don't need to read the tiny, tiny font.

Have you tried the new large font? It's quite nice in my opinion.

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Klaus-rf

· #20 · 28 d ago

francoisp said:
Have you tried the new large font? It's quite nice in my opinion.

I searched high and low, viewed every config screen on the car and have not seen anything related to font size. Nothing in the build notes that I can find either. v 2022.45.15

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