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We've narrowed our new car search down to two, leaning towards the Tesla Y, but have a few concerns/questions I was hoping owners can answer:
1. I live in a hot climate, so being able to remotely cool off the car is a MUST. Does the Tesla app do this? What level of connectivity subscription do I need to do this?
2. Does the app have a vehicle locator? I sometimes forget to note where I parked in big parking lots! Again, what level of subscription do I need for this?
3. Does the Y come with adaptive cruise control, or is that part of the $6,000 self-driving upgrade?
4. Lane keep assist/departure prevention - included, or part of an upgrade?
5. Does it have vented/cooled seats? (really nice in a hot climate - back sweat)
6. Anyone have experience with EV6 and offer additional pros/cons of each?

Thanks!
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I searched high and low, viewed every config screen on the car and have not seen anything related to font size. Nothing in the build notes that I can find either. v 2022.45.15
The font change is not yet in the FSD Beta releases.
The font change is not yet in the FSD Beta releases.
That's what I suspected. Wait another year then.
None for me!!

Two Weeks!
Two Weeks!
Two Weeks!
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I searched high and low, viewed every config screen on the car and have not seen anything related to font size. Nothing in the build notes that I can find either. v 2022.45.15
I see. I'm on 2023.12.1
**A paid subscription to streaming services is required to access music and media streaming
Did they take that away from new cars? We have an early Model 3, which has lifetime premium connectivity and music streaming is included.
Did they take that away from new cars? We have an early Model 3, which has lifetime premium connectivity and music streaming is included.
Yes. I traded my M3 for a Y in September 2020 and it was no longer included.
Did they take that away from new cars? We have an early Model 3, which has lifetime premium connectivity and music streaming is included.
The lifetime premium connectivity required that the car was ordered by June 30, 2018.
showed up in 2023.12.X, control/settings, display, font size
watch on youtube, there are many 2023.12 update videos
Wait, you might not get a Tesla because you have to pay $99 a year for premium connectivity? That’s funny.
It's a turnoff to be roped into a subscription deal to make sure the car keeps working as I need it to. It's an industry trend that we as consumers need to put a stop to. Android Auto lets you shop around for services (you just use your cell phone data plan, which you can change, and use whatever apps you want for navigation), not having it gives the car company leverage. I was reading that another car company was charging subscription rates to keep features like heated seats running. In other words, you "own" the car but they can continue charging you to use it - a market trend nobody wants.

Android auto is that good?
Like I said above, it gives you leverage as a consumer. But also, it's amazingly convenient - examples:
1. You put an appointment into your phone for "Church Ice Cream Social", location = "Betty Johnson's House". You get into your car to drive to the event, and it suggests "Betty Johnson Home, 123 Main Street" that it pulled from your contacts. You push that suggestion button and drive off.
2. You call to order carryout food or make reservations from a restaurant from your phone at home. You get into the car, and the address of the restaurant is suggested as a destination.
3. You fly to another state for work, get into a rental car, plug your phone in, and the screen is exactly as it was in your car back home, including all your contacts and appointments (with ability to navigate based on those).
4. Same scenerio as #2, except you and your spouse swapped cars (one car has bigger trunk, let's say) for the day. Your contacts, favorite destinations, etc transfer to her car, and vice-versa.

Android Auto / Google Maps does all the things mentioned in the other posts - finds charging stations, warns about road hazards and speed traps, etc. And it's free. But if it becomes not free, I can at least choose from competing options, I'm not tied down to one provider, or nothing.
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It's a turnoff to be roped into a subscription deal to make sure the car keeps working as I need it to. It's an industry trend that we as consumers need to put a stop to. Android Auto lets you shop around for services (you just use your cell phone data plan, which you can change, and use whatever apps you want for navigation), not having it gives the car company leverage. I was reading that another car company was charging subscription rates to keep features like heated seats running. In other words, you "own" the car but they can continue charging you to use it - a market trend nobody wants.


Like I said above, it gives you leverage as a consumer. But also, it's amazingly convenient - examples:
1. You put an appointment into your phone for "Church Ice Cream Social", location = "Betty Johnson's House". You get into your car to drive to the event, and it suggests "Betty Johnson Home, 123 Main Street" that it pulled from your contacts. You push that suggestion button and drive off.
2. You call to order carryout food or make reservations from a restaurant from your phone at home. You get into the car, and the address of the restaurant is suggested as a destination.
3. You fly to another state for work, get into a rental car, plug your phone in, and the screen is exactly as it was in your car back home, including all your contacts and appointments (with ability to navigate based on those).
4. Same scenerio as #2, except you and your spouse swapped cars (one car has bigger trunk, let's say) for the day. Your contacts, favorite destinations, etc transfer to her car, and vice-versa.

Android Auto / Google Maps does all the things mentioned in the other posts - finds charging stations, warns about road hazards and speed traps, etc. And it's free. But if it becomes not free, I can at least choose from competing options, I'm not tied down to one provider, or nothing.
Regarding 1, if you give Tesla access to your calendar, the appointments will be shown in your car. If an appointment has an address you can navigate to that address.

Regarding 2, you can share an address from Google Map to your car and it will show on the navigation screen

Regarding 3, if you rent a Tesla your profile can follow you if you set a cloud profile.

Regarding the subscription, Tesla can't subsidize internet connection for people to watch movies or listen to music. I think the yearly fee is quite reasonable.
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Regarding 1, if you give Tesla access to your calendar, the appointments will be shown in your car. If an appointment has an address you can navigate to that address.

Regarding 2, you can share an address from Google Map to your car and it will show on the navigation screen

Regarding 3, if you rent a Tesla your profile can follow you if you set a cloud profile.

Regarding the subscription, Tesla can't subsidize internet connection for people to watch movies or listen to music. I think the yearly fee is quite reasonable.
Where do you rent from that they give you a Tesla (and what company will pay for that)? I get stuck with miserable "crossovers" like Rav4, or a whiny Camry.
Hertz
Where do you rent from that they give you a Tesla (and what company will pay for that)? I get stuck with miserable "crossovers" like Rav4, or a whiny Camry.
Hertz has lots of Tesla. Many companies have corporate accounts with Hertz.

interesting how Hertz using Teslas has lowered their costs, but we are only seeing increased profits for them not lower rental costs, :(
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interesting how Hertz using Teslas has lowered their costs, but we are only seeing increased profits for them not lower rental costs, :(
Competition is the key to lower costs.
interesting how Hertz using Teslas has lowered their costs, but we are only seeing increased profits for them not lower rental costs, :(
Welcome to Capitalism.
interesting how Hertz using Teslas has lowered their costs, but we are only seeing increased profits for them not lower rental costs, :(
Hertz went into bankruptcy. If they didn't find a way to "increase profits", then they would have had to go completely out of business. Don't try to spin this as some sort of "greedy company" move. This was a matter of survival.
Where do you rent from that they give you a Tesla...
A lot of the big ones have them available nowadays.

Hertz has the big "Tesla" advertising campaign.

My company has a deal with Avis, so I usually rent from them. They have Teslas available too.

When I totaled my Tesla (sniff!), my insurance company paid for a rental from Enterprise. They had a Hyundai Kona EV and a Polestar 2 available.
Did they take that away from new cars? We have an early Model 3, which has lifetime premium connectivity and music streaming is included.
30 days included when you buy the car. After that you must subscribe. its $99 for the year.
30 days included when you buy the car. After that you must subscribe. its $99 for the year.
So $198/year for Premium connectivity and music streaming?
So $198/year for Premium connectivity and music streaming?
$99/year includes the basic Slacker/LiveXLive/LiveOne music streaming.
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