[mnl119]

First, follow the charge recommendation in the app (80%) for daily charging, unless you're going on a long trip.

Next, all newly delivered Teslas have very confused battery management systems (BMS) and take a few weeks to recover. So you might see completely wrong mileage estimates until then.

Finally, no Model 3 is rated at 436 miles. I don't know what WLTP is, but the W must stand for Wild Guess, and the LTP must have something to do with smoking crack or being high on fentanyl. The actual should be somewhere in the 330 mile range.

If you don't actually need to drive 400 miles per day, then you don't need to worry about the range. There are Tesla Superchargers all over the UK for unusual drives, so you don't need to worry about having enough capacity to drive from one end of the UK to the other on one charge.

I would suggest charging to 80% daily at home, and set the battery display to percentage. Keep it above 20% with Supercharging when traveling. Then don't worry about what the guess-o-meter says ever again.

"First, follow the charge recommendation in the app (80%) for daily charging, unless you're going on a long trip."

I don't think the 80% for daily driving applies to the new LFP batteries (in the new Model 3 base models). I think Tesla recommends charging to 100% all the time for these. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[voldar]

I don't think the 80% for daily driving applies to the new LFP batteries (in the new Model 3 base models).

You do know that there are no longer Tesla's with LFP batteries, right ? In North America, of course.
And the OP mentioned he has a RWD LR Model 3. That doesn't have a LFP battery.

 

[mnl119]

You do know that there are no longer Tesla's with LFP batteries, right ? In North America, of course.
And the OP mentioned he has a RWD LR Model 3. That doesn't have a LFP battery.

No I did not. Please disregard my post then. Thanks for the correction.

 

[JasonF]

"First, follow the charge recommendation in the app (80%) for daily charging, unless you're going on a long trip."

I don't think the 80% for daily driving applies to the new LFP batteries (in the new Model 3 base models). I think Tesla recommends charging to 100% all the time for these. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

There is a screenshot of the OP’s Tesla app that includes the 80% charge recommendation, that’s what I based it on.

 

[Bigriver]

Really??? I'd never heard of that!

I had recently learned this in a thread about cars in Australia. Disjoint between advertised WLTP and in-car EPA ranges. Kind of bizarre but well-explained in Owner’s Manual.

this is my thirds tesla and when fully charged the previous 2 cars both showed the advertised mileage before setting off

What I don’t understand is this is your 3rd Tesla and you hadn’t noticed this large difference before? Had you just not been aware on the previous ones what the advertised WLTP range is? Has there been a recent change that maybe WLTP wasn’t used in advertising there? Or did Tesla make a change in their in-car display. My 2017 model X can toggle between WLTP and EPA, but that has never been a feature of model 3/Y, at least not in the U.S.

 

[david.madeley]

hi all I am paying a premium leasing fee for the RWD long range model because it is advertised as having 436mile range. this is my thirds tesla and when fully charged the previous 2 cars both showed the advertised mileage before setting off. I realise you get less in real world driving, but a fully charged car should at least start at the correct range.

My new model 3, collected last week, when fully charged to 100%, and before setting off, only has a350 mile range. WELL BELOW the advertised 436 miles.

This is not acceptable to me and I am thinking of rejecting the car. There is just no justification for this in my opinion.

Has anyone else had this issue?

I have just taken delivery of my new Model 3 AWD Long Range with advertised mileage of 390 miles, when fully charged its showing 300 miles, this is less than the range of my 4 year old Long Range AWD Tesla which I swapped out .. I contacted the leasing company who were suppoed to talk to Tesla but havent heard anything back yet!

I also contacted Tesla through their CHat and they dismissed my query and said my battery was fine!

I am diappointed with Tesla right now and the way they have dismissed my concerns .. I was a loyal customer but am swaying on rejecting the car and switching to something else!!

 

[BillLin]

I have just taken delivery of my new Model 3 AWD Long Range with advertised mileage of 390 miles, when fully charged its showing 300 miles, this is less than the range of my 4 year old Long Range AWD Tesla which I swapped out .. I contacted the leasing company who were suppoed to talk to Tesla but havent heard anything back yet!

I also contacted Tesla through their CHat and they dismissed my query and said my battery was fine!

I am diappointed with Tesla right now and the way they have dismissed my concerns .. I was a loyal customer but am swaying on rejecting the car and switching to something else!!

I believe this has been explained many times. What you see in the car is the more stringent US EPA estimated range. The website shows WLTP numbers for consistency with other UK sites.

 

[david.madeley]

I believe this has been explained many times. What you see in the car is the more stringent US EPA estimated range. The website shows WLTP numbers for consistency with other UK sites.

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Hi Bill,
My previous model 3 (2021) had a published range that corresponded to the 100% charged range (343 Miles when new). My new Model 3 shows a range when fully charged of 300miles!
How can the published range be 90 miles less than the 100% charged range & 43 miles less than a 4 year old model ?

 

[BillLin]

Apologies, there is one other factor newly in play. The car tries to give you an estimated range based on past driving. This is hearsay as I only look at the battery percentage.

Your car does in fact have a higher EPA rating.

 

[jimalden]

That's the famously bloated WLTP number that the UK REQURES Tesla to show. Even the much lower US number that Tesla shows is virtually unachievable. It appears to me that your beef is with your government, not with Tesla.

I thought so too, but it's not unachievable. Out Of Spec got 384 miles out of it at a steady 70 mph, surpassing EPA.

 

[FRC]

I thought so too, but it's not unachievable. Out Of Spec got 384 miles out of it at a steady 70 mph, surpassing EPA.

Believe that if you wish, I don't. (And note that I specifically stated "virtually unachievable" not "unachievable")

 

[voldar]

I have just taken delivery of my new Model 3 AWD Long Range with advertised mileage of 390 miles, when fully charged its showing 300 miles, this is less than the range of my 4 year old Long Range AWD Tesla which I swapped out

There is no 2025 Tesla Model 3 LR AWD advertised with 390 miles unless the advertise range is based on WLTP range tests.
What you see in the screen as range is the EPA range based on the % of battery, not the WLTP range. This is a Tesla choice to present the same number accros the world.
If you bought a 2025, the EPA range for a Model 3 LR AWD is 346 miles on 18" wheels or 332 miles on 19" wheels. I doubt the 300 miles number you see in the screen is at 100%, because there is no such thing as battery degradation of 14% on a 2025 Tesla in its first months of ownership. It looks to me that the battery was more like closer to 87% SOC (state of charge) or 90% if you had 19" wheels.

I thought so too, but it's not unachievable. Out Of Spec got 384 miles out of it at a steady 70 mph, surpassing EPA.

Out of Spec got 384 miles for their Tesla Model 3 LR RWD variant, not the AWD. The AWD got 365 miles on 18'' wheels at +2,000 feet elevation which has a positive impact on the car performance (thinner air).