[FRC]

My experience with the CC+ tires is generally better efficiency, and certainly not worse, than my original MXM4 tires. I don't do much highway driving, and it has been warmer than usual but that's still an apples to apples - driving habits and weather - comparison over two years of car ownership and 6 months now with the CC+.

How do you think your wear on the CC+'s compare to the OEM's so far?

 

[PiperPaul]

How do you think your wear on the CC+'s compare to the OEM's so far?

I have almost 4,000 Km on them now and have lost 2/32 inches of tread.
That rate of wear pretty much matches the MXM4 original tires which were finished at 22,000 Km. However, I'm hopeful that my wear so far is part of new tires settling in.

Unfortunately I had assumed that the originals were picked by Tesla to last a more reasonable distance, and that my alignment from the factory was correct. Bad assumptions. I took the Owner's Manual at face value recommending rotation at 20,000 Km so didn't pay enough attention to wear.
Now they've changed the rotation schedule to 10,000 Km, and I'm measuring tire tread across each tire every month.
We'll see.
On all other factors - efficiency, noise, grip in bad weather, handling, etc. - I'm happy with the CC+.

 

[SandiaView]

Got the Goodyear Exhilarate tires for the 19" put on this weekend at my discount tire. They are offering a $50 instant saving, discount tire $50 rebate, & Goodyear $100 rebate all stackable. So turned out to be a decent time to buy a new set of tires. These things put the power down quite well. Initial impressions smooth riding, direct turn-in with some rotation then bites (Yokohama took more of a rubber band approach which kind of snaps you in place out of the turn but both do a great job). They are relativity quiet to be foamless. Just got to get a alignment this coming weekend and will update on range, ride quality and noise will probably be better too

I really got turned on to the GoodYear Exhilarates after reading about the rim edge protection and the good reviews on performance. Moving up to 19" rims from my 18" with the Michelin Primacy MXM4 22K miles - they have always seemed terrible to me, premature wear IMO and horribly loud. Called discount tire and was told I need to go with the slightly wider 245 width due to needing the higher load index 245/40R19 98Y XL VSB. The 235 load index is 96. Curious if that's what others went with?

 

[Quicksilver]

Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving! Quicksilver has recently pass 20k miles! Gahh!

I started looking at the tires recently and noticed that the Right Front tire is wearing more on the outer edge (see pic). I had the tires rotated at around 10k miles IIRC. Most of my driving is around town and only on two road trips (short and longish). The Left Front (pic) is wearing more evenly. I am no suspension expert, but from a quick search (pic) I can see that is is probably positive camber issue but why only on the right tire? Could it be an issue with ball joint, springs?

Driving on a level surface, it does not seems to pull left or right. I am planning on getting new tires soon (looking at Goodyear Assurance Maxlife) but thinking I need the issue corrected with alignment before new tires or should I have it corrected with alignment after I get new tires?

Right Front

Left Front

 

[NEO]

Cross Climates are sold out in the US and they won't be getting more in until 1/8/2021 according to Tire Rack. I'm really bummed as I ordered some for my Model 3 and now I need to figure out a new set. Does anyone have any experience with the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4? It looks like I would take a hit on range with these. I'm new to snow so I really want a all season tire with snow capability.

https://www.michelinman.com/tires/high-performance-tires/pilot/pilot-sport-all-season-4.html

 

[aadams1278]

Cross Climates are sold out in the US and they won't be getting more in until 1/8/2021 according to Tire Rack. I'm really bummed as I ordered some for my Model 3 and now I need to figure out a new set. Does anyone have any experience with the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4? It looks like I would take a hit on range with these. I'm new to snow so I really want a all season tire with snow capability.

https://www.michelinman.com/tires/high-performance-tires/pilot/pilot-sport-all-season-4.html

I also just found out from my Discount Tire that CrossClimate+ is on back order but he told me there is no ETA.
I'm curious if anyone here has any experience at all with the CrossClimate2 or has considered them? While researching this topic, I came across this video which compares the CrossClimate+ to the CrossClimate2.

Basically, the only differences he mentions are:
1. CrossClimate+ designed for Europe with lower rolling resistance in mind due to higher fuel costs there compared to North America.
2. CrossClimate2 designed for North America with higher treadwear life in mind due to people usually drive more miles in North America.

I would guess that means there may be a small tradeoff between treadwear and range reduction between these two tires depending on which of those factors is more important to you. Both of them are at the top of my priorities, so either one is probably good for me.

The tricky part...A quick search on tirerack seems to indicate that the CrossClimate2 is not available in the OEM size 235/45R18, but is available in 235/50R18 and 235/55R18. I'm definitely not well versed on tire sizes, but this seems like a small difference, not enough to cause any real problems, and I'm curious if anyone here would have any insight on the compatibility of those sizes on stock model 3 18" rims.

 

[Mesprit87]

Seems like Michelin is coming up with something new, in Europe at least.
Reminds me of my P600

 

[gary in NY]

I also just found out from my Discount Tire that CrossClimate+ is on back order but he told me there is no ETA.
I'm curious if anyone here has any experience at all with the CrossClimate2 or has considered them? While researching this topic, I came across this video which compares the CrossClimate+ to the CrossClimate2.

Basically, the only differences he mentions are:
1. CrossClimate+ designed for Europe with lower rolling resistance in mind due to higher fuel costs there compared to North America.
2. CrossClimate2 designed for North America with higher treadwear life in mind due to people usually drive more miles in North America.

I would guess that means there may be a small tradeoff between treadwear and range reduction between these two tires depending on which of those factors is more important to you. Both of them are at the top of my priorities, so either one is probably good for me.

The tricky part...A quick search on tirerack seems to indicate that the CrossClimate2 is not available in the OEM size 235/45R18, but is available in 235/50R18 and 235/55R18. I'm definitely not well versed on tire sizes, but this seems like a small difference, not enough to cause any real problems, and I'm curious if anyone here would have any insight on the compatibility of those sizes on stock model 3 18" rims.

I got the 18" CrossClimte+s from Tirerack back in October. At first I wasn't sure about the ride, but now I like them better than the the OEMs. It's hard to describe the difference, but I can feel it. The Primacys are better at performance driving, but mine wore out so quick that I'm now in Chill mode. My efficiency has gone down, but that's more seasonal than anything else. We have not had winter weather here yet, so can't comment on winter traction. I did watch his video a while back.

 

[Pltdbk]

Hey fellas. Im new here and probably resurrecting an old thread. I have a 18 lr rwd with the oem Michelin’s on with shy of 30k miles. I am looking for new tires but torn between two choices. I’m from LA and American tire depot has a buy 3 get one tire sale. Sadly Michelin isn’t Included so I’m stuck between the Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS or Continental extreme contact dws. Inputs and other recommendations would be appreciated! Thanks guys!

 

[vinnie97]

Has anyone dared to buy Primacies as replacements after 20k measly miles of performance? Did anyone achieve greater mileage on retail purchase?

 

[FRC]

Has anyone dared to buy Primacies as replacements after 20k measly miles of performance? Did anyone achieve greater mileage on retail purchase?

I have run 3 sets of OEM Primacys, 2 on my P and 1 on my wife's AWD. I got 33k miles on each of my sets, my wife's set is due for replacement now at 27K miles. My second set were OEM's purchased from a forum member.

 

[vinnie97]

Maybe it needs realignment, but I noticed excessive wear at nearly the beginning of use. I suspect I'll be going for a cheaper set this time, even if it means a loss in efficiency.

 

[FRC]

Maybe it needs realignment, but I noticed excessive wear at nearly the beginning of use. I suspect I'll be going for a cheaper set this time, even if it means a loss in efficiency.

Economy will be the primary goal with my wife's next set since she is so hard on tires. Efficiency is of no concern, but noise level is.

 

[Pltdbk]

Has anyone ran pilot sport 4s on their rwd model 3? Or if anyone has info on how much range I would be losing.

 

[garsh]

Maybe it needs realignment, but I noticed excessive wear at nearly the beginning of use. I suspect I'll be going for a cheaper set this time, even if it means a loss in efficiency.

Unless you're always cornering hard, that's a sure sign that your car need alignment. Be sure to get an alignment asap, or your next set of tires will suffer the same fate.

 

[gary in NY]

I have run 3 sets of OEM Primacys, 2 on my P and 1 on my wife's AWD. I got 33k miles on each of my sets, my wife's set is due for replacement now at 27K miles. My second set were OEM's purchased from a forum member.

You must have the magic touch. Anyone that can achieve that kind of mileage (on a P no-less) on those tires deserves some kind of metal.

 

[FRC]

You must have the magic touch. Anyone that can achieve that kind of mileage (on a P no-less) on those tires deserves some kind of metal.

For clarity, it's a stealth P on 18" OEM's.

 

[Needsdecaf]

You must have the magic touch. Anyone that can achieve that kind of mileage (on a P no-less) on those tires deserves some kind of metal.

Depends on driving.

My LRAWD had 34k miles at the time of it's demise and still had about 2/32 of tread left. But that's a lot of steady highway cruising.

 

[vinnie97]

Definitely not a leadfoot typically. I took this RWD to Discount Tire for a rotation at 6k miles, and I was shocked to hear them offer a new set after a tread check (granted, that is their bread and butter). I've managed to put on almost 21k miles, but they're definitely on borrowed time.

 

[FRC]

I think @Needsdecaf might be on to something in post#378. Throwing all that weight around tight corners and turns on surface streets may be really tough on these tires. My "impressive" mileage on my tires may be because 2/3 of my driving is highway cruising(road trips).