[Bigriver]

In addition to the Safety Score, I also participate in the State Farm Insurance "Drive Safe and Save" program

Me too. It was very helpful to diagnose that first hard brake I got early on the safety score. I never would have guessed where it occurred.

While you can dial down Autopilot speed, it's not fast.

It's not now, but prior to FSD Beta it was quite fast. That was my normal method for slowing down for stop lights too, when I was the lead car and autopilot was hurtling me towards the red light at an uncomfortably fast rate.

And it counts up every time you're even 1 mph above the speed limit, so you have to drive under the speed limit all the time to avoid that

State Farm? Their set point is 8 mph over the speed limit to flag speeding.

But then it sends you an email threatening that if you continue your bad behavior, it will impact your insurance rate

Never got one of those. Been on the program for many years.

But I got $150 off my last 6-month premium, so life is good.

My agent told me that it is guaranteed not to increase your rate. And I recall that there was even some minimum discount that it would apply just for being a part of the program. I have it on 3 cars with the discount ranging from $4 (probably the minimum discount) to $130, with the smallest discount on the one getting well over 12,000 miles a year and the largest discount on the one that hangs out in the garage the most.

 

[JasonF]

I consistently score between 85 and 92 on the State Farm app, using Autopilot almost all the time. Hard braking is still my weakness. But I got $150 off my last 6-month premium, so life is good.

Maybe they finally calibrated it properly for Teslas - I took mine out something like 3 years ago. But I was already stung by the threat of raising my rate for using it, so it's still in the drawer.

 

[GDN]

My agent told me that it is guaranteed not to increase your rate. And I recall that there was even some minimum discount that it would apply just for being a part of the program. I have it on 3 cars with the discount ranging from $4 (probably the minimum discount) to $130, with the smallest discount on the one getting well over 12,000 miles a year and the largest discount on the one that hangs out in the garage the most.

My agent and reading from Google also says it can not be held against you, it can only improve your rates. I switched to State Farm just 3 or 4 weeks ago and let them talk me into it, but I'm stopping by to discuss the discounts again. They had some pretty good rates so we switched then they wanted me to join the Safe driving. So far our score is about 72% and I can promise you driving and EV and enjoying it just a little my score is likely to never improve, so I'm ready to toss them out already. I can be a good driver and take their rates without worrying about every drive I take.

 

[JasonF]

It might be moot anyway - State Farm raised my rates about 20% starting this month over a single windshield claim, so it looks like I’ll be insurance shopping soon.

 

[MrBill]

I had two points knocked off because I was on a forest road and came upon a huge pothole. I was doing a whopping 25 mph but I hit the brakes hard and swerved hard to miss the pothole and got dinged on the score because of it. At least they told me why they deducted two points but there was no way to present my defense. I can easily imagine such things as a kid on a bicycle or a pet running out to the road and that would cause a similar reaction by the program even though hitting the brakes hard would be safer than not hitting the brakes.

 

[Madmolecule]

When will you good drivers train the AI, so the car can start driving me as purchased.
Almost February and:

No specs on FSD
What is order fulfillment timeline on FSD purchases
What is City Streets and what is it’s desired functionality (what will the drivers responsibility be?)
What is the anticipated Timeline for nag extension or removal
How does liability work under final, as purchased, FSD
What is the anticipated feature set of advanced summon, will it always be line of sight? Anticipated schedule
when will they release data showing vision only is batter than multi variable criteria control?
when will the release data showing that Teslas are safer and FSD is safer so that insurance is cheaper not more expensive for an automated Tesla.
what is there proposed schedule for submitting to NTSB for FSD approval. Do they plan on a state by state or do they have a plan at all?
will the current 2018 with upgraded computer ever be able to perform FSD, or is it just for bit coin mining like dojo (holding up a chip, does not impress me)
Updated timeline for Robo taxi
uodated timeline for catquest ‘98

I would think the smartest guy in the room and the richest guy on the planet could provide this basic information to us Tesla Longs; the fools that purchased the car and the dream instead of stock.

 

[Enginerd]

It takes a while to improve overall score with 100 score drives.

And it will take weeks to move up to 100 if that's your goal.

I suffered a bad score due to an over-sensitive forward collision warning event. My understanding is that there are 2 ways to game the system:

1. After a known negative event, stop and double thumbwheel reboot with foot on the brake, and those negative marks won't save into your score.
2. Un-enroll from the program for about a day. Re-enroll, and you start a new score from a clean sheet of paper.

To get myself up to 99 or 100, I thought I could work my way out of a 400 mile trip with a daily score of 97. But when you do the math on that, assuming shorter daily commutes, etc., the only reasonable way to get there is to wait until that bad score falls out of the 30 day window. And BTW, the daily score is weighted by mileage, so those big trips weigh heavy.

I started fresh this week, did a few grandpa-style safe drives, and now with 110 miles and an average score of 100, I'm going to park it until I hopefully get the FSD beta upgrade this weekend.

 

[KnightRiderKitt]

This thread hasn't been too active lately, so I thought I fire it back up. A while back I hadn't driven my MSP for about 3 weeks and my "Safety Score" kept dropping daily.....from 96-97% down to the low 50's. Once I started driving it again, the score began going up fairly rapidly. It took about 2-3 days to go from the low 50's to 98%. That lasted a couple days and then a guy turned in front of me and I got a front collision warning which wasn't even close. This lowered my score to 96%. I've since reduced the sensitivity of the front collision warning so, hopefully, it won't continue to over react.

I've signed up for the FSD Beta Testing, but am not really so sure that I would want to be one of the more active participants in this program, as I am not sure how much I'd use the FSD, especially around town. On the highway and wide open spaces, probably. Really, I am waiting for the day when FSD will actually be usable in the real world. I bought it the day I picked up my MSP, knowing that, as it becomes more perfected, the price will continue to escalate. I am figuring that was a good move since the FSD price has just gone up another $2000 from when I bought it. Also, the price of the vehicle has gone up $5000. Maybe there is something to be said for ordering early and having to wait 6 months for delivery......even though we were chomping at the bit to get it ASAP.

 

[KnightRiderKitt]

Just saw Enginerd's post above and like the reboot idea. Next time I have an adverse "event" I'll give that a try.

 

[Kizzy]

That lasted a couple days and then a guy turned in front of me and I got a front collision warning which wasn't even close. This lowered my score to 96%. I've since reduced the sensitivity of the front collision warning so, hopefully, it won't continue to over react.

The Forward Collision Warning measurement is based on the Medium setting, so if you change to Late, you won't know when you're being dinged for it.

 

[KnightRiderKitt]

The Forward Collision Warning measurement is based on the Medium setting, so if you change to Late, you won't know when you're being dinged for it.

Yes, it was on the Medium setting, and I did change it to Late. The guy turning in front of me wasn't even close (about 40-50 ft. at 30 mph) so, if that's what they base it on, IMO, it's being way too picky. I guess though that when I am playing their game and using their rules, I'll have to learn to live with it or don't play. Now, there's a thought.

 

[Kizzy]

Yes, it was on the Medium setting, and I did change it to Late. The guy turning in front of me wasn't even close (about 40-50 ft. at 30 mph) so, if that's what they base it on, IMO, it's being way too picky. I guess though that when I am playing their game and using their rules, I'll have to learn to live with it or don't play. Now, there's a thought.

I had a Forward Collision warning with no car near me. It was absolutely a false alarm, though I've had moments where it has saved me, though sometimes I've just been slow to react but not in danger of collision. It's an arbitrary measurement. Running a stop sign is better for your score than to stop suddenly for an unexpected stop. 🤷🏾‍♀️

 

[KnightRiderKitt]

I had a Forward Collision warning with no car near me. It was absolutely a false alarm, though I've had moments where it has saved me, though sometimes I've just been slow to react but not in danger of collision. It's an arbitrary measurement. Running a stop sign is better for your score than to stop suddenly for an unexpected stop. 🤷🏾‍♀️

Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Maybe they'll award you points if you run the stop sign and don't get into a fender bender.

 

[Luvtordrive]

Where and when do you get a safety score? I got my MYP 2 weeks ago and am wondering when it will “show up” on my app. Is it after a certain amount of driving?

thanks,
Brian

 

[shareef777]

Where and when do you get a safety score? I got my MYP 2 weeks ago and am wondering when it will “show up” on my app. Is it after a certain amount of driving?

thanks,
Brian

You need to sign up for the FSD beta in your vehicle.

 

[RexBush]

found this on reddit
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It would appear that driving aggressively and arriving before by boss every morning even though I never leave my house (next door.) until I hear his 812 Superfast pulling out of the driveway is a habit that I need to kick…

 

[JasonF]

It would appear that driving aggressively and arriving before by boss every morning even though I never leave my house (next door.) until I hear his 812 Superfast pulling out of the driveway is a habit that I need to kick…

It looks to me like you should stick to Excessive Speeding and give up all of the other habits. Then you'll still beat your boss to work but get a better score doing it.

 

[RexBush]

It looks to me like you should stick to Excessive Speeding and give up all of the other habits. Then you'll still beat your boss to work but get a better score doing it.

The strange part is, I excessively speed almost every time I get in the car. I live next to a very long highway on-ramp and most of the time I’m 10 feet behind him while he’s flat out. I suppose this explains the abysmal unsafe following.