[Kimmo57]

I wish the factory suspension was softer.

Highland suspension fits. I already placed an order for the parts from Tesla, but then cancelled, because I decided to trade the whole car.

 

[Rcnesneg]

Highland suspension fits. I already placed an order for the parts from Tesla, but then cancelled, because I decided to trade the whole car.

How does highland suspension compare to MPP comfort adjustable coilovers?

Does the highland have more space for bigger tires under the front knuckle, or better clearance on the rear brakes for smaller rims?

 

[Kimmo57]

How does highland suspension compare to MPP comfort adjustable coilovers?

MPP feels really harsh for me as well as having short travel. It was a only marginal improvement to a stock 2019 in terms of comfort. The difference with Highland's stock suspension is night and day!

 

[Rcnesneg]

So in other news today I reviewed the tire pressure charts for my tires and adjusted them from 50 Psi to 39. It's an absolutely huge difference in how it rides. I'm perfectly happy with the stock 2021 model 3 LR suspension at this point.

 

[ImpulsiveZ]

Rims on the photos are GMP Fasten Anthracite Matt 7.5x17 with the standard M3 offset of 40 (I used them before with "normal sized" winter tires on the front axle). Rims on the driver side are Borbet Y Titan Matt with the same specs (I used them before with "normal sized" summer tires on the front axle). To clear the knuckles in the front I had to add 26 mm spacers from Eibach, resulting in around 2.5 mm clearance. To clear the bigger brake calipers in the back (I was suprised that the M3 has larger ones in the back! Usually the front brakes are larger!?) I had to spontaneously add my used set of custom made 2 cm spacers. (1 cm would have been more than enough, but I don't want to buy a forth set of spacers and now the difference between front and rear axle is only 6 mm.)

Tires are Yokohama Geolandar G015. A real allround tire: AT plus All-Season with snowflake mark.

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Thank you for this information! I just searched all over the internet for this information lol.
I just bought a 2022 Model 3 Long Range and it came with 19" Tesla stock wheels. Was thinking of ways to fit a 17s on them so I can get a bigger sidewall as well as increase range.
It looks like from your info
in order to get a 17" wheel to work a

17" wheel
7.5" width
+15 offset for front
+20 offset for rear
(or +15 offset for both)
or similar spec must be met.
Your wheel looks amazing by the way!

Not sure about spacers since they add weight, but from the tough specs needed to be met it might be more cost effective to do it that way.

Sorry for the bump but this was the info I needed. Thank you.

 

[Rcnesneg]

Thank you for this information! I just searched all over the internet for this information lol.
I just bought a 2022 Model 3 Long Range and it came with 19" Tesla stock wheels. Was thinking of ways to fit a 17s on them so I can get a bigger sidewall as well as increase range.
It looks like from your info
in order to get a 17" wheel to work a

17" wheel
7.5" width
+15 offset for front
+20 offset for rear
(or +15 offset for both)
or similar spec must be met.
Your wheel looks amazing by the way!

Not sure about spacers since they add weight, but from the tough specs needed to be met it might be more cost effective to do it that way.

Sorry for the bump but this was the info I needed. Thank you.

If you can find a 225-245 width AT that goes on a 17" rim and fits the model 3 rear brakes, please let me know! I thought 17s didn't fit unless they were the Braid Fullrace A with some custom machining.

225/50R18 was the most I could fit. I'd really like 17s.

 

[ImpulsiveZ]

If you can find a 225-245 width AT that goes on a 17" rim and fits the model 3 rear brakes, please let me know! I thought 17s didn't fit unless they were the Braid Fullrace A with some custom machining.

225/50R18 was the most I could fit. I'd really like 17s.

Oh sure! I use Vredestein tires exclusively. The set I had on my previous car (chevy bolt ev) was the most amazing tire I had out of any tire I bought ever.

They have charts of tires you can fit.

https://www.vredestein.com/car-suv-tires/products/1787-HYPERTRAC.all/

(I've used HyperTrac on my chevy bolt for a couple of months before I traded it in for my Tesla and it was a NIGHT and DAY difference, why do OEM give us crap tires!)

They also have some EV tuned tires, but I usually just worry about getting higher load rating (vs stock) so tires last longer (I had SL non-ev tires before that torn apart from the inside, so thats learned about it haha).

For 17s, I seen that had the perfect size here

https://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100...eModel=Quatrac+Pro%2B&partnum=355YR7QTPPXL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

^^^
This tire with a 17" rim would be sooo freaking perfect. The load rating is higher than what Tesla stock wheels have, they are EV tuned, affordable, and are rated all weather. Way higher rating than Tesla OEM tires. According to all the research I've done so far, they will fit perfect on a M3 with close clearance to the control arm based on the information below
vvv

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-model-3-max-tire-size-235-50-r18.303911/

I read here that a 235/50R18 is the absolute max wheel size (rim+tire) that the Model 3 can fit.

You can use

Alloy Wheel & Tyre Fitment Calculator. Offset, Tyre Stretch and Speedo Error | Will They Fit

Alloy Wheel & tyre fitment calculator - it calculates inset, poke, speedo error, tyre stretch and loads more.

www.willtheyfit.com

To find the equivalent size that will meet this for different cases. You can put your existing setup as 235/50R18 and then make sure not to exceed any tire/wheel combo on the ride height.

 

[Rcnesneg]

Oh sure! I use Vredestein tires exclusively. The set I had on my previous car (chevy bolt ev) was the most amazing tire I had out of any tire I bought ever.

They have charts of tires you can fit.

https://www.vredestein.com/car-suv-tires/products/1787-HYPERTRAC.all/

(I've used HyperTrac on my chevy bolt for a couple of months before I traded it in for my Tesla and it was a NIGHT and DAY difference, why do OEM give us crap tires!)

They also have some EV tuned tires, but I usually just worry about getting higher load rating (vs stock) so tires last longer (I had SL non-ev tires before that torn apart from the inside, so thats learned about it haha).

For 17s, I seen that had the perfect size here

https://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100...eModel=Quatrac+Pro%2B&partnum=355YR7QTPPXL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

^^^
This tire with a 17" rim would be sooo freaking perfect. The load rating is higher than what Tesla stock wheels have, they are EV tuned, affordable, and are rated all weather. Way higher rating than Tesla OEM tires. According to all the research I've done so far, they will fit perfect on a M3 with close clearance to the control arm based on the information below
vvv

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-model-3-max-tire-size-235-50-r18.303911/

I read here that a 235/50R18 is the absolute max wheel size (rim+tire) that the Model 3 can fit.

You can use

Alloy Wheel & Tyre Fitment Calculator. Offset, Tyre Stretch and Speedo Error | Will They Fit

Alloy Wheel & tyre fitment calculator - it calculates inset, poke, speedo error, tyre stretch and loads more.

www.willtheyfit.com

To find the equivalent size that will meet this for different cases. You can put your existing setup as 235/50R18 and then make sure not to exceed any tire/wheel combo on the ride height.

What I'm asking for is you to get a 17" and put it on your car and show us it fits over the rear brakes.

 

[ImpulsiveZ]

What I'm asking for is you to get a 17" and put it on your car and show us it fits over the rear brakes.

Ah I see lol. I will be sure to post here once I that is done. Will be awhile though. I was just doing the research for future ideas.

 

[Atraf]

If you can find a 225-245 width AT that goes on a 17" rim and fits the model 3 rear brakes, please let me know! I thought 17s didn't fit unless they were the Braid Fullrace A with some custom machining.

225/50R18 was the most I could fit. I'd really like 17s.

Ah I see lol. I will be sure to post here once I that is done. Will be awhile though. I was just doing the research for future ideas.

Rcnesneg here is correct in that there is one documented case where a person installed 17" size wheels on model 3, those were made by Braid (Fullrace A) and they (as the maker of the wheel) modified it to fit, off the shelf it doesn't have to be costume order. That doesn't rule out any other 17" wheels but to date that's the only one that was posted to work flawlessly.

 

[ImpulsiveZ]

Rcnesneg here is correct in that there is one documented case where a person installed 17" size wheels on model 3, those were made by Braid (Fullrace A) and they (as the maker of the wheel) modified it to fit, off the shelf it doesn't have to be costume order. That doesn't rule out any other 17" wheels but to date that's the only one that was posted to work flawlessly.

It seems that from the information I've gathered from different sources

Any 17" wheel with a 7" width and a offset of +20 or less should work.

The Braid (Fullrace A) so far are the lightest wheel I've found someone else to use (and work without any other modifications).
There are more choices on fitmentindustries.com where you can find the required offset for 17" needed using their filter tool they have (real good search on there) BUT the wheels they have listed are not as good of quality. The Fullrace A comes in at a incredible bang for buck for $400 per wheel for the 17x7 and being only 17lbs which should greatly improve range the M3.

You can also have the Fullrace A 17x8" width but according calculations I made on WillTheyFit.com the offset will have to be at least +7 or less. This will cause the wider 17" to stick out of the wheel well which will hurt range.

The 17x7 +20 offset makes a lot more sense efficiency-wise since the wheel will sit where the Tesla OEM sat.
The wheel is being offset by 1.5 inches and then being reduce by 1.5 inches
(your basically deleting 1.5 inches on the right side of the OEM wheel (8.5"), where the smaller 17" rim would conflict with the brakes/suspension).

It seems like the FullRace A wheels can be made it order with any offset making this the best choice so far. I've looked at all their other wheels and nothing else their lineup will work or be lighter. (They do have lighter, but not the right bolt size and wayy expensive).

I don't plan to change anything until the tires I have wear out (I just bought my M3 LR lol). But I will think about this. Getting a ton of range would be nice, but I am REALLY impressed that the 19x8.5 inch Tesla wheels are only 25lbs! Hmmmmmm!!

If anyone does get the 17x7 Full Race A's, make sure you get a great tire to go with it to keep up traction. The Tesla OEM tires are trash, you should have no issues with these tires that I recommended previously, they can handle the weight and score really high on the charts.

https://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100...eModel=Quatrac+Pro%2B&partnum=355YR7QTPPXL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

 

[Atraf]

It seems that from the information I've gathered from different sources

Any 17" wheel with a 7" width and a offset of +20 or less should work.

The Braid (Fullrace A) so far are the lightest wheel I've found someone else to use (and work without any other modifications).
There are more choices on fitmentindustries.com where you can find the required offset for 17" needed using their filter tool they have (real good search on there) BUT the wheels they have listed are not as good of quality. The Fullrace A comes in at a incredible bang for buck for $400 per wheel for the 17x7 and being only 17lbs which should greatly improve range the M3.

You can also have the Fullrace A 17x8" width but according calculations I made on WillTheyFit.com the offset will have to be at least +7 or less. This will cause the wider 17" to stick out of the wheel well which will hurt range.

The 17x7 +20 offset makes a lot more sense efficiency-wise since the wheel will sit where the Tesla OEM sat.
The wheel is being offset by 1.5 inches and then being reduce by 1.5 inches
(your basically deleting 1.5 inches on the right side of the OEM wheel (8.5"), where the smaller 17" rim would conflict with the brakes/suspension).

It seems like the FullRace A wheels can be made it order with any offset making this the best choice so far. I've looked at all their other wheels and nothing else their lineup will work or be lighter. (They do have lighter, but not the right bolt size and wayy expensive).

I don't plan to change anything until the tires I have wear out (I just bought my M3 LR lol). But I will think about this. Getting a ton of range would be nice, but I am REALLY impressed that the 19x8.5 inch Tesla wheels are only 25lbs! Hmmmmmm!!

If anyone does get the 17x7 Full Race A's, make sure you get a great tire to go with it to keep up traction. The Tesla OEM tires are trash, you should have no issues with these tires that I recommended previously, they can handle the weight and score really high on the charts.

https://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100...eModel=Quatrac+Pro%2B&partnum=355YR7QTPPXL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

Range is function of two things: rolling resistance and aero drag. if the wheel/tire poke from side of car you lose a lot on efficiency, open wheel design also causes turbulence which adds drag, sticky tires also adds drag.
weight helps with 0-60 time, if traction isn't the limiting factor (keep in mind that our cars are faster at higher battery %, ex long range model 3 will be faster than performance model 3 if the LR is 100% battery and the performance is 20%, not sure where the break point is though but at those gaps it will be faster for sure).

There's actually a guy in EU that have 17s, not just that one other guy we all spoke about from Nevada, the EU guy runs 225/70R17 but has poke and 'bad' range, here are some pics (some body cutting took place for this to work)

Additionally, the Nevada guy as far as I remember runs 215 width which according to him is great off road but terrible at on asphalt quick turn taking.
Edit: The reason for 215 width is for clearance from front upper knuckle, most setups (ex 255/45R18) try to get as close to the knuckle from under it as possible, leaving as little as one sheet of paper gap, since the upper knuckle moves with the wheel the gap is always consistent form that aspect, however what some fail to grasp is that tire size changes due to centrifugal forces when sinned fast, this changes in each tire product, as in extreme contact of one particular size will all act the same way and expend in the same manner but different size continental extreme contact might expend a different amount at a different RPM speed, meanwhile other tires form that brand and other tires from other brands might behave drastically different. There's a EU guy that runs falken all terrain tires, he kept complaining that the tires were hard to balance and worked badly at high speed, in reality the were touching the front upper knuckle at highway speeds but had a good size gap while parked, his personal experience prior to that was limited and he mistook the sensation of effectively driving with small amount of front break applied to bad balance.... don't be that guy
So the approach of the Nevada guy is to dodge the front upper knuckle altogether, his tire seats right next to (rather than under) the knuckle, the downside? poor traction on asphalt, increased break distance, and the car is quick to lose traction if attempting to take turns at high speeds (ex a curved highway on ramp)

* I highly recommend making sure the wheels you are considering have sufficient load rating + if I was to place an order I would probably do it at least in part over the phone and make sure they know to which vehicle its going
** if you just bought your car.... maybe worthwhile to check how much you could sell your current set, might bring the cost of the change way down

 

[ghat]

hi

Any folks here increased the ride height ?

This is one which is a 1.85" spacer

Tesla Model Y 1.85" Overland Adventure Suspension Lift Kit Set

Tesla Model Y Suspension Lift Kit for Overlanding & Off-roading Performance. The T Sportline Tesla Model Y Lift Kit will improve offroad capability by lifting the vehicle 1.8" and allowing the fitment of up to 29.5″ overall diameter tires and a greater break over angle. The Model Y Lift Kit will...

tsportline.com

I am only interested in increasing the ride height, not really overlanding or anything

Anyone ?

G

 

[FRC]

I purchased a used Model 3 a couple of years ago on which the original owner upgraded the suspension to include Mountain Pass Performance parts. The struts/coilovers were adjustable within about a 2 inch range. They were set to lowest when I purchased and I had them adjusted to highest shortly after purchase.
Personally, I would never install adjustable ride height. My ride height preferences don't change, so I'd pick a height I'm happy with and stay there.
A word of warning: If you alter your OEM suspension parts, Tesla will disclaim responsibility for ANY suspension issues.