Yes, it's a very poor design. Unfortunately Wiper control switches to Auto mode whenever any ADAS is engaged, which now included adaptive cruise control. there is no solution inside the car.

I have read some posts indicating that an aftermarket product called S3XY Buttons (edited) allows setting the wipers to Off when adaptive CC is engaged but have no personal experience with it.

 

I can confirm that the S3XY buttons, or really the commander module that comes with the buttons, from enhauto.com will absolutely allow you to override the auto wiper feature on TACC and autopilot/auto steer. I just installed them in the car yesterday and didn't have a single activation of the wipers on cruise control or auto pilot unless I made the input for the wipe. I cannot express how much I hated my automatic wipers going off on a dry windshield and this product has eliminated my utter hatred of that feature.

 

A fairly recent upgrade linked the windshield wiper system to cruise control. Supposedly, while the cruise control is engaged, the system detects moisture on the windshield and activates the wipers. Once activated, I can find no way to turn the wipers off without disconnecting the cruise control and manually turning the wipers off. If I don't perform that second function, the wipers constinue whether I've engaged the cruise control or not.

Is there any way to disengage this feature so I can drive with the cruise control engaged (which, given the sensitivity of EV throttles, is highly desirable on undulation roads) without having the alternating sun and shadow activate the wipers?

It's not moisture, its vision blockage. Try cleaning the area in front of the cameras well. On a recent long trip, the wipers came on and didn't really want to turn off. Stopped at a gas station, got the squeegee and cleaned the area and they didn't turn on anymore.

 

I have a fairly new windshield (rock took out the last one) and on my latest 4200 mile road trip, cleaning the entire camera area made zero difference. I did find myself forcing it to the slowest interval mode I instead of AUTO was at least a little more tolerable. I pretty much avoid the AUTO setting all the time now and switching to I is possible, just not OFF. They really messed something up on a recent update. (At least it sorta worked before.) On the other hand, the auto headlights were awful a few years back too and they finally seem to have that corrected

 

A fairly recent upgrade linked the windshield wiper system to cruise control. Supposedly, while the cruise control is engaged, the system detects moisture on the windshield and activates the wipers. Once activated, I can find no way to turn the wipers off without disconnecting the cruise control and manually turning the wipers off. If I don't perform that second function, the wipers constinue whether I've engaged the cruise control or not.

I do most of my driving at high altitude (~7,000') Arizona. For weeks now, the skies here have been clear and there's been no precipitation. But early in the morning and late in the afternoon, when the sun is low, the ponderosa pine cast their shadows on the road and one drives through rapidly alternating shadow and bright sun. For whatever reason, that seems to trigger the wipers if I have the cruise control engaged ... and I find that very annoying. Disengaging the cruise control, manually turning the wipers off and re-engaging cruise control isn't effective either, as the wipers activate as soon as I have re-engagee the cruise control.

Is there any way to disengage this feature so I can drive with the cruise control engaged (which, given the sensitivity of EV throttles, is highly desirable on undulation roads) without having the alternating sun and shadow activate the wipers?

(I'll add a second annoyance with the feature, as I've also driven in light rain with the cruise control engaged, and the wipers haven't turned on unless I turn them on manually. But then, that's not a common problem where I am ....)

I have the exact same issue on my 2 2023 Model Ys. More prevalent early morning when driving north or south which puts the sun off to the side. Driving through shadows from trees on the side of the road triggers the wipers constantly. It does it with both cars with clean windshields almost every morning. When I turn into the sun or not driving through tree shadows it no longer triggers the wipers.

I‘ve had rain sensing wipers on multiple cars and I’ve never had that problem.

 

This happens to me regularly, in both of the described situations. Clean windshield and cameras make no difference. It is very distracting and annoying.

 

This may be a stupid statement, but a clean windshield doesn't matter. It's the are of the windshield in front of the cameras that matter. Get the car into an are where you have some good light and look at it from different directions. You can't do this from inside the car, you have to be outside. I suspect that you may find some marks or smudges.

 

We had rain a couple of days ago, really more "dirty spit" than rain, it made spots on the windscreen which I hadn't cleaned yet. Tonight the sun hit the front windshield and the wipers came on thinking those dry dirty spots were raindrops I guess. Grrrrr! I immediately hit the voice command and shouted "wipers off" and by golly it worked. And they didn't come back on. I might've gotten lucky because the light changed but I'll see if it works again. Or maybe I'll clean my windshield. Frustrating indeed.

 

The wipers are triggered by the camera.
If there is any distortion in front of the lens it can trigger the wipers. Sometimes it's hard to see the film left by inferior cleaning methods.

I keep some window cleaner and microfiber cloths in the car, because sometimes it needs to be sparkling-clean to work properly.

 

Useful advice ... but the situation itself is a good example of how "the perfect can be the enemy of the good." As a driver, I think I'm smart enough to know when I need the wipers and when I don't. Having an automatic system that is ignorant of my preferences and requires me to keep that part of the windshield "sparkling-clean to work properly" is not helpful, especially in a dusty environment or during insect season when the windshield collects more bugs than an entomologist could dream of. I vainly look forward to the day when this OTA "enhancement" is recinded.

 

the stealth update is to allow us to turn this off, anybody get that update yet, im still at 2023.12.9 on two Ts

 

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Simple solution: Just learn to want what your car "wants". It knows better - learn to trust it.

 

Hasn't that been the rules in all the cars that you've owned? "Driver decides"

Did you parents let you change the radio to whatever you wanted?

 

"WILL always have to exist? That's quite a statement. "

When the car drives, the car will be responsible for running the wipers. There is currently a regression where the car seems to run them too much.

"How long does that take? "
Are you telling me that you NEVER take your eyes off the road? You never check the speedometer; you never check anything else. ?

"I anticipated the risk. Would the car? "
Absolutely, it does it all the time. That was actually a problem in that earlier algorithms that detected vehicles that crossed the road weren't calculating as well as they should, that's been updated in the latest releases.

"while that car may not have caught it."
I didn't say that you were wrong by taking over. But the table could have been easily turned, the car catches something that you missed. It has happened.

""I will absolutely guarantee that it can respond faster than you can." Then why didn't it, in any of those three situations?"

Because at that time it didn't think that it needed to. I see and hear it all the time, people override the car because they don't think that it's going to react. But in many instances, if you just wait a half second, the car often responds. My mom always thought my dad was a slob. She was always cleaning things up and he wouldn't. She went into a care facility, and we noticed that the house was still clean. What was happening? Her threshold for dirty was just a little higher than his was.
Same thing often happens to teenager drivers. Parent yell because the teenager didn't do it. But if they wouldn't yell, they'd find that the teenager successfully does it.

The AF analogy is a perfect one for this. The pilot assumed that the autopilot wasn't going to do its job. You are assuming the exact same thing.

I am NOT saying that FSD is perfect. What I am saying is that it isn't as bad as many say. The more you don't trust it, the less that you learn to trust it.

 

“A fairly recent upgrade linked the windshield wiper system to cruise control. Supposedly, while the cruise control is engaged, the system detects moisture on the windshield and activates the wipers…”

I would much prefer to have an “opt-out” of the Auto wipers. I know when to use my wipers and, while i understand they’re accommodating the lowest common denominator, it‘s frustrating to have them come on for mist.
Even worse! is that they are now coming on whether or not there is ANY moisture. I have a one-hour commute, and I cannot use cruise/auto because the dang wipers start wiping… on a dry windshield.
Please, Tesla, provide an opt-out of the auto wiper function.

 

I have had a new Model Y for 6 weeks. I never had this problem until the car installed its first system update a few days ago. Now, the wipers come on when ever I activate the autopilot cruise control. Very annoying and dangerous too.

 

Maddening

 

Look for update 2023.20.7

 

Also, I’ve tried the method of hitting the left button to bring up the wiper options. But, at least on my Y, it immediately returns to Auto. Nothing I can do except kick off the cruise/autopilot

 

AP needs a clear windshield, thus rhe wipers working when it’s raining
The above code update will help auto run better
But Simple don’t want auto, turn off AP

 

Finally, what’s wrong with offering an opt-out of the auto-wipers when cruise is engaged. If there is mist, I prefer to use the left-stalk button. One and done.

 

Tesla and Merc are entering a time of increased liability for them when we let their tech drive
Put yourself in their shoes, I would force auto when AP EAP FAD is operating

 

Reviving this thread.

Did Tesla do a software change on the autonatic wipers recently?

For the last few weeks our wipers haven’t come on unCommanded with no rain. In heavy rain they came on perfectly.

Today I was driving on wet road after a rain storm. The cars around me kicked up enough mist to completely cover my windshield and completely obstruct my forward vision.. We were using autopilot with lane keeping at the time. I expected the wipers to come on by themselves but they didn’t. I had to manually activate the wipers to clear the windshield.

That was a first. Usually they are too sensitive to anything on the windshield including shadows.

Did Something change?

 

Reviving this thread.

Did Tesla do a software change on the autonatic wipers recently?

For the last few weeks our wipers haven’t come on unCommanded with no rain. In heavy rain they came on perfectly.

Today I was driving on wet road after a rain storm. The cars around me kicked up enough mist to completely cover my windshield and completely obstruct my forward vision.. We were using autopilot with lane keeping at the time. I expected the wipers to come on by themselves but they didn’t. I had to manually activate the wipers to clear the windshield.

That was a first. Usually they are too sensitive to anything on the windshield including shadows.

Did Something change?

A mist isn't necessarily enough to engage the wipers. I have that situation with my wife quite often. She used to turn the wipers on at the first raindrop, I wait until my vision is obstructed (which is way past her point).

What release are you on? We aren't all on the same one.